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Old 7/1/08, 11:56 AM
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Shold these joists have been run through the wall and attached to the interior floor joists.
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Old 7/1/08, 12:01 PM
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How is the ledger board attached?

What is the beam bearing on?
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Old 7/1/08, 12:02 PM
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No, but the ledger should be lagged to the sill.
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Old 7/1/08, 12:14 PM
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Need to know the footer,are there lag bolts,any bolts thru the post and ledger board ?
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Old 7/1/08, 12:21 PM
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Unless I'm missing something, this whole thing looks like an accident waiting to happen.
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Old 7/1/08, 12:23 PM
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How is the ledger board attached?

What is the beam bearing on?
Double sided tape?
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Old 7/1/08, 12:34 PM
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I did not see any lag bolts in the ledger. The footers in my opinion are to small, less than 16x16. The beam is only nailed.



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Old 7/1/08, 1:48 PM
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I agree with Mr. Larson. That thing is scary. . .



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Chris, you need to fix your link.



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Old 7/1/08, 2:22 PM
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I pointed out as many defects as I could and recommend evaluation by a licensed professional.

Many of these retal cabins in the Smoky Mountains are built the same way. Maybe the hills are too steep for the building inspector to make it up there.



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Chris, you need to fix your link.
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Old 7/4/08, 3:52 AM
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As far as the ledger... possibly too small an area to see what they did.

Some areas, albeit small allow doubling of the 2x materials and carriage bolting to the post. That looks like a single piece of 2x material. I have seen even recently, permitted decks with a 2x carriage bolted to both sides of a 6x post..

I can't find anything right about that install shown. The ledger tends to bolted every 16" in a staggered pattern in most areas i've seen. I've also used and seen Simpson Strong Drive Screws (SDS) in a 16" on center pattern with 2 sds screws every 16. There may be a nice sized galvy bolt on just either side of the pic..

Hey, give em credit. They DID use some flashing of some type...

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I just noticed the picture of the balcony above the other... I'm gonna puke.

What the heck is the upper deck/balcony bearing on.. the one below it...

ouch. I like how the posts are offset from one another and bearing on the single piece of 2x (at least it looks like a single piece of 2x)

Some guys take shortcuts when they scab a project in. That deck could/will give more than a scab to SOMEBODY.

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I hereby take away any credit I gave them for the flashing.



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The railings are real nice, and that's what sold the place!
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