Cracking FAUX STONE

[Carl A. Brown]

[Stephen W. Stanczyk]

Carl,

Are you sure that isn't a faux crack to make it look real?

[Carl A. Brown]

It might be an expansion joint.

[Carl A. Brown]

I posted them over HERE but not much chatter yet.

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

It might be an expansion joint.

Lemmee guess, that cracking is right below that piss-poor excuse for a kickout flashing. right?

Wanna bet that the corner cracked due to swelling of the substrate

Regards

Gerry

[Carl A. Brown]

What kickout flashing?

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

What kickout flashing?

well come on Carl at least they lobbed a bit of tin in there, it's not like they weren't trying

Regards

Gerry

[Carl A. Brown]

Trying to do what?

Those are baby tins and around here that is all they use.

There is no way for a cladding installer to get the proper clearance from the roof no matter what the cladding.

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

Trying to do what?

Those are baby tins and around here that is all they use.

There is no way for a cladding installer to get the proper clearance from the roof no matter what the cladding.

I guess they've never heard of Dryflekt up there, mind you I doubt that the stone had proper clearance above the roof counter flashing anyway

Gerry

[Carl A. Brown]

O they have heard of Dryflekt I made sure of that my self.

[Buck Hartley, CMI]

DRY what??? Just kidding.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

"Typical cracks noted in the decorative stone. Keep these well sealed at all times and monitor in the future to prevent moisture penetration and deterioration, etc. Unless the wall cavity is opened up, there is no way for the inspector to know if there are problems -- such as trapped water, wood rot, mold etc. -- inside the cavity. Also, there is no good way for us to know what part(s) of the cavity(s) should be opened up for further evaluation. There could be an important problem - - or there may be no problem at all. There is no economical and easy means for the Kansas home inspector to be sure one way or the other in a visual, non-destructive home inspection".

"However, in Kansas since we now have mandatory E&O insurance and at least $10,000 worth of liability for unfound defects on each inspection, the inspector recommends having a licensed geo-technical engineer with stone masonry experience RIP the stuff off and look for defects - PRIOR to leaving the inspection contingency period".

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GOSH - this is gonna feel really good next year when the new Kansas law goes into effect. Watching the face of the commissioned RE Agent who has not had a sale in 2 months after I show them the stone and then make my profound comments AS ABOVE to keep myself financially solvent.

[Michael W. Gault]

Originally Posted by dbowers

"Typical cracks noted in the decorative stone. Keep these well sealed at all times and monitor in the future to prevent moisture penetration and deterioration, etc. Unless the wall cavity is opened up, there is no way for the inspector to know if there are problems -- such as trapped water, wood rot, mold etc. -- inside the cavity. Also, there is no good way for us to know what part(s) of the cavity(s) should be opened up for further evaluation. There could be an important problem - - or there may be no problem at all. There is no economical and easy means for the Kansas home inspector to be sure one way or the other in a visual, non-destructive home inspection".

"However, in Kansas since we now have mandatory E&O insurance and at least $10,000 worth of liability for unfound defects on each inspection, the inspector recommends having a licensed geo-technical engineer with stone masonry experience RIP the stuff off and look for defects - PRIOR to leaving the inspection contingency period".

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GOSH - this is gonna feel really good next year when the new Kansas law goes into effect. Watching the face of the commissioned RE Agent who has not had a sale in 2 months after I show them the stone and then make my profound comments AS ABOVE to keep myself financially solvent.

Ouch!! We have a Licensing and Gen Liability requirement and I thought that sucked...

[Marcel R. Cyr]

This link here might be found useful for this subject on faux stone, other than explaining why the crack.

http://www.culturedstone.com/technical/flashing.asp

Marcel

[Barry Adair]

you guys know this but worth repeating for those that don't...faux stone will only perform as well as the substrate it's adhered to...if the underlayment is moving or cracked this will telegraph though the stone veneer and appear on the surface...when applied at or across dissimilar material intersections and solidly attached to both systems expect cracking to occur, that outside edge/stucco abutment requires no more than a backer rod w/high grade low modulus caulk seal... and was probably not treated with the respect she deserved