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[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Carl -

The fact that the newspaper got a story out there on the front page of the sunday KC paper, made a HUGE splash and got tons of people talking and thinking about stucco and getting it inspected is terrific. I have not talked to anybody that was confused - they now realized there was a problem with stucco (no matter what type or what agents & builders told them) and wanted to get it checked out. That IMHO is a fantastic start.

[Carl A. Brown]

Dan,

You are right it was a start and I am going to try to get it going again.

[Barry Adair]

Dan or Carl,

Please post or e-mail me the KC Star article you are discussing.

Inquiring minds want to know.

thanx

[Carl A. Brown]

Barry,

Here it is on Dans website!


http://www.holmesinspection.com/star_4-10-05.html

[pcarter-old-04]

Carl,

I understand you will be training us at the NACHI meeting in KC on the 19th of August, will you be explaining the differences between synthetic and hybrid stucco? I don't have alot of stucco here in my area but it doesnt hurt to know the differences and how to recognize the different types that are manufactured.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Hi. Carl, hope you are fine.

Just read the Article of the 2005, and found it very interesting that mis-installed products as such can go that far. Is it possible that Contractors out there are left to install these products without controlled inspections by the Manufactures??

How about AHJ's, don't they monitor installations of the sort??

Noticed a job being done in my town the other day, and notice the the EIFS system was being used and applied directly on the OSB, and wondered to myself, seems like some sort of rain screen should be applied first.
What are your thoughts on this??

Marcel
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[Carl A. Brown]

Patirck, I am going to be there and I am sure there will be others there who will have alot of input also. Hopefully it will help everybody in the future.

Marcel, The manufactures do not seem to care as long as they sell product and getting them all on the same page to worry about the end product seems to be a very big joke. Because if things are not installed to mfgrs. specs they have no liability. And for the most part I think they like it that way. None of them understand the concept of metal flashing/drip cap. And ship lap construction.


http://www.badstucco.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=481

[Carl A. Brown]

Noticed a job being done in my town the other day, and notice the the EIFS system was being used and applied directly on the OSB, and wondered to myself, seems like some sort of rain screen should be applied first.
What are your thoughts on this??

They were not putting a sealer on the OSB? They have some on the market and they paint it on with a roller. I feel it needs a moisture barrier and drainage plane. Do you by chance have any pictures ?

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

Noticed a job being done in my town the other day, and notice the the EIFS system was being used and applied directly on the OSB, and wondered to myself, seems like some sort of rain screen should be applied first.
What are your thoughts on this??

They were not putting a sealer on the OSB? They have some on the market and they paint it on with a roller. I feel it needs a moisture barrier and drainage plane. Do you by chance have any pictures ?

This owner said the builder told them the OSB (oriented sponge board) was supposed to be waterproof, call the manufacturer......

[Carl A. Brown]

This is where it will be in the near future. Does anyone have this in the KC metro?


http://www.buildscanir.com/modules.p...2&g2_itemId=37

[Carl A. Brown]

Marcel,
This is a good drainage plane behing felt. IMO



http://pactivpartners.pactiv.com/pro...A5FBF6DF%5D%5D

[Dale Duffy]

What is wrong with good old tar paper?...........

[Carl A. Brown]

Dale,
Nothing IMO but with stucco / EIFS the pactiv behind it provides a good drainage plane. =D>

But then again I do not work for Dupont and or Fortifiber.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

Dale,
Nothing IMO but with stucco / EIFS the pactiv behind it provides a good drainage plane. =D>

But then again I do not work for Dupont and or Fortifiber.

Water is not supposed to get behind it!......

Rain is supposed to run off the surface, not in back of the surface......

[Carl A. Brown]

There is water on the inside trying to get out in some climates!

Water is not supposed to get behind it!...... Thats right but we all know it does!