Egress code

[Dennis R. Goudreau]

your welcome, Peter do think sometimes when a BI knows your a HI it then becomes like a test?

[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by dgoudreau

your welcome, Peter do think sometimes when a BI knows your a HI it then becomes like a test?

Definatelly, I try to not let on about that

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by prussell

The state of Maine adopted the 2003 IRC so I'm not sure why they use the Boca, I have the code books in my office, I just hate trying to figure out what these code officials want.

Thanks for the help.

Peter, I can't believe that either and what I could find, does not correspond to the statement you made unless this Town is in the Dark Ages.

First page of this link talks about the IRC and IBC and also adoption by Municipalities.

http://www.maine.gov/mpuc/orders/2004/2004-521nor.pdf

http://janus.state.me.us/legis/ros/l...551-600-29.htm

http://www.cement.org/codes/stats.asp?stateid=20

As far as I can tell, if any Local is going to adopt a Building Code, it has to be IRC or IBC.

Which Town was that Peter?
Just curious.

I have worked in towns from York Maine to Madawaska near the Canadian Border.

Marcel
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[Peter C. Russell]

Marcel, it's North Berwick and get this, permit is going to be denied due to set backs, they only have 92 feet from the house to the road, need 100.
We'll have to apply for a variance, keep in mind this is a second story addition, not changing the foundation foot print at all.

With the way things are going, I'll be bald by next week.

PS thanks for the post.

[Peter C. Russell]

Here is the application, if you look at the right hand side under the inspectors section you will see BOCA code and he confirmed it today

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Hi. Peter;

Your right, it does say BOCA on this link to their Code System also.

http://www.townofnorthberwick.org/Pa...0Ordinance.pdf

This one may help you in other locals, but they are not all listed.

http://www.generalcode.com/webcode2.html#main

Sometimes fighting City Hall on Commen Sense, is futile. ha. ha.

Marcel
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[Peter C. Russell]

Yeah, now I'm understanding where Nick got that phrase from! wasn't he a contractor in another life?

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by prussell

Yeah, now I'm understanding where Nick got that phrase from! wasn't he a contractor in another life?

I think he was, but he did mention in one of his post that he walked away from an inspection of the first house he built.

I am hoping that some Members are reading this and realize the importance to check Local Codes when Inspecting Houses in their own Towns and realize how different and confusing things may become.
What flies in one Town may not soar in another, and citing Codes could get you in trouble.
I believe one should talk softly, educate, and write hard. Let it be what it is as long as it has been addressed and noted.

Good luck.

Marcel
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[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by mcyr

I think he was, but he did mention in one of his post that he walked away from an inspection of the first house he built.

I am hoping that some Members are reading this and realize the importance to check Local Codes when Inspecting Houses in their own Towns and realize how different and confusing things may become.
What flies in one Town may not soar in another, and citing Codes could get you in trouble.
I believe one should talk softly, educate, and write hard. Let it be what it is as long as it has been addressed and noted.

Good luck.

Marcel
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Marcel, don't go anywhere I think I found something and need your advice.

Be right back.

[Peter C. Russell]

OK, Marcel, thanks for the zoning for N. Berwick, this is what I found what do you think?

Page 9, section 1.4.4 Non conforming uses

Paragraph C, internal expansion.

A non conforming use or part of a building or structure shall not be extended throughout other parts of the building or structure unless those parts of the building or structure were manifestly arranged or designed for such use before the adoptions became the ordinance.

So my contention is the house was designed to carry a second floor live load due to the framing of the first and second floors and is exempt from the new ordinance.

What do you think.

[Peter C. Russell]

Marcel, sorry I forgot this.

The first floor or basement is framed with a center beam in the middle with 2x8 joists 16 OC which shake hands over the center beam. Steel lally columns X on center. Second floor framed the same.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Peter, it sounds like conforming-use and non-conforming use is up to interpretation of the written Code and might need an interpretation by the Planning Board of the area.

The way I read it may or maynot apply to your circumstances and would recommend you persue the Planning Board decision.

Wish you luck and keep me posted.

Wish I could help you more.

Marcel
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[Peter C. Russell]

Marcel, I should have also noted that this house has been in the family since his grandfather built it in the 50s. He had planned on putting a second floor on it and never did.

My thoughts are it's exempt as i quoted in there zoning laws.

I'm going to try, got a call into the inspector, should hear from him tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Peter, I am interpeting this the same way you are since the house has be conforming and has not been vacant for more than 12 months as their Code reads.

I am with you in waiting to see what the Code Enforcements interpetation is and if not in your favor, it could also be defered to a higher level of interpetation by the Planning Board of Appeals.

Marcel

[Peter C. Russell]

Thanks Marcel, I feel I'm right but that doesn't mean much as you know.

I'll keep you posted, OH, by the way, what do you think about them using the BOCA code. I just don't get it!