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Old 4/30/08, 12:00 AM
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Default EIFS above roofing

Should EIFS have a 1" gap above the roofing materials to prevent moisture from wicking behind the siding material?
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Old 4/30/08, 1:07 AM
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EPS does not wick!
Example: your styro coffee cup does not wick liquid from the inside to the outside nor up and out over the rim of the cup. This occured with the old polyiso materials that are no longer used with quality EIFS drainage systems

They've dumbed down these guidelines over the years to make it easier for the applicators to set the rules.

Here's the latest from EIMA (note lack of dimension)

The EIF system should be terminated above the roof line to facilitate roof repairs and treatment of EIFS termination. In addition, the clearance allows for free-flow of water and minimizes accumulation of debris. Set the diverter flashing in a full bed of roof cement between the roof cement between the roof sheathing and underlayment.


All of my reports still say 2" above the roof line



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Old 4/30/08, 7:24 AM
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Barry,
You're saying that this material does not wick, however it should terminate above the roof line.

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Barry,
You're saying that this material does not wick, however it should terminate above the roof line.

Thanks - Al
No, what I said was EPS doesn't wick.
I don't know when this house was built or what type foam it has.

It looks like your EIFS is applied to the shingles and wall system damage will occur when it is time to replace the shingles...

Yes, all siding/exterior wall cladding should be terminated 2" above the roof line to facilitate roof repairs and treatment of termination. In addition, the clearance allows for free-flow of water and minimizes accumulation of debris.

Defer this to an EIFS specialist.
The downspout is also incorrect requires redirection into the gutter below and there are probably other moisture issues.



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Is the top of the trim on the windows all flat or just it just look that way?



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Is the top of the trim on the windows all flat or just it just look that way?
Yep, 90°!

Man, if we tag teamed them they'd never build another...

report blurb:
All decorative horizontal surfaces, trims and quoins shall have proper radiuses or shall have a minimum 6:12 slope.



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Picky Picky Picky!



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Old 4/30/08, 9:40 AM
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Then there is the question of all the backer rod and sealant joints!

These voices in my head are driving me more CRAZY!


When they put trim on around windows the placement of the backer rod and sealant can trap as much water in as they keep out.



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These voices in my head are driving me more CRAZY!
The bride keeps telling me this will be a very short trip...



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Then there is the question of all the backer rod and sealant joints!
When they put trim on around windows the placement of the backer rod and sealant can trap as much water in as they keep out.
But this is an industry standard and what all manufactures tell them to do.



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Old 4/30/08, 11:03 AM
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But this is an industry standard and what all manufactures tell them to do.

Experts and Manufactures have been wrong before!

I am glad to hear I am not the only one with the voices!

Our brides share that thought!



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