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Old 2/12/09, 8:55 AM
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Would you recommend the area along the flashing and wood comp siding too be caulked? Water is standing on the flashing.The water is in contact with the wood comp siding.

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Old 2/12/09, 8:59 AM
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Old 2/12/09, 9:05 AM
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Absolutely.

Is that Masonite siding?
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Old 2/12/09, 9:28 AM
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Default Re: Flashing over garage door

Flashing if installed correctly should direct the water away from the structure.
"Flashing installed incorrectly. Further evaluation required."
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Default Re: Flashing over garage door

LP lap siding installation instructions call for a 3/16" gap between the bottom course and the flashing. If you caulk this area, you are trapping any moisture in back of the siding and failure will result.

Chances are when the Z flashing was installed, they installed it with a 90 degree angle at the wall / trim junction. That is what causes the moisture to sit there. Proper installation would have the flashing installed with a slope to drain the water away. See attachment.

I see siding installed tightly on top of the flashing. I see the gap caulked. Report what you see.

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LP lap siding installation instructions call for a 3/16" gap between the bottom course and the flashing. If you caulk this area, you are trapping any moisture in back of the siding and failure will result.

Chances are when the Z flashing was installed, they installed it with a 90 degree angle at the wall / trim junction. That is what causes the moisture to sit there. Proper installation would have the flashing installed with a slope to drain the water away. See attachment.

I see siding installed tightly on top of the flashing. I see the gap caulked. Report what you see.

Attachment 26855
I agree. I think the gap between bottom of siding and flashing should not be flashed (to allow water out if behind the siding) but a bead of caulk along the trim , under the drip edge, would be good.



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I agree. I think the gap between bottom of siding and flashing should not be flashed (to allow water out if behind the siding) but a bead of caulk along the trim , under the drip edge, would be good.
You no longer have to caulk the but joints of Hardie plank

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You no longer have to caulk the but joints of Hardie plank
Unless they are field cut.




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My comment was a but, not a butt



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Unless they are field cut.
I had to call Hardie and ask. I inspected new Construction and every home was not caulked. Always something new.
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My comment was a but, not a butt
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Absolutely.

Is that Masonite siding?
Hi David,
It looks like Louisiana Pacific siding. It was involved in a large class action lawsuit since expired. The distinctive knothole pattern was the item used to identify it for the lawsuit. I still have some on my home in a couple of areas that I have slowly over the years replaced with Hardi. It is particleboard garbage, comes primed on the surface and completely exposed on the backside. Once it gets wet it becomes shredded wood chips, grows mold better than a pietri dish.



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I agree. I think the gap between bottom of siding and flashing should not be flashed (to allow water out if behind the siding) but a bead of caulk along the trim , under the drip edge, would be good.
This flashing is not sloped to convey the water away from the siding. Water will sit there and rot the lower edge of this siding.
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Hi David,
It looks like Louisiana Pacific siding. It was involved in a large class action lawsuit since expired. The distinctive knothole pattern was the item used to identify it for the lawsuit. I still have some on my home in a couple of areas that I have slowly over the years replaced with Hardi. It is particleboard garbage, comes primed on the surface and completely exposed on the backside. Once it gets wet it becomes shredded wood chips, grows mold better than a pietri dish.

That's what I thought.

I write this siding up as "High Maintenance Siding" and tell my clients to have it maintained annually.
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