Garage fire door question.

[David Nasser]

The small door from the garage to the house.....can it have
a pet door installed?


David
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[Mark Thorman]

no.


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[rmaday]

It physically can.

But it wouldn't be fire rated any longer.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by rmaday

It physically can.

But it wouldn't be fire rated any longer.

Ditto

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Ditto

Double ditto.

No glass either. Of course, don't come to my home.

[James A. Levy]

It would need to be a fire rated pet door. I used to special order them for people when I worked in Home Depot. This same company makes the pet door also for retro-fit applications.

[agallatin]

I thought that garage to house doors had to have a reasonably good seal to prevent fumes entering the house . Would a pet door do this ?

[Michael R. Boyett]

Originally Posted by jlevy1

It would need to be a fire rated pet door. I used to special order them for people when I worked in Home Depot. This same company makes the pet door also for retro-fit applications.

Drew...I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say....there's no such thing. It would appear that the company providing those doors to resellers start with a fire rated door assembly from Masonite Corp and then add the window & pet door. As soon as they modify the fire rated door like that it loses its fire rating. The company appears to be in Dallas and I will call them this week to get a copy of their final product fire rated approval documentation. I'm betting that they will not likely be able to produce it though. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

[Mark Thorman]

Originally Posted by jlevy1

It would need to be a fire rated pet door. I used to special order them for people when I worked in Home Depot. This same company makes the pet door also for retro-fit applications.

I'm not so sure that this door has the correct fire rating. There is a hugh difference between an exterior fire resistance rating and a door to dwelling 20 min fire-rated door. For one the exterior fire-resistance-rated door does allow penetrations where the door to dwelling fire-rated door does not allow penetrations. At least thats the way I read it. Before I recommend it I would double check with the manufacturer.

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[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by agallatin

I thought that garage to house doors had to have a reasonably good seal to prevent fumes entering the house . Would a pet door do this ?

Must be from Canada......

[Michael R. Boyett]

Originally Posted by mboyett

Drew...I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say....there's no such thing. It would appear that the company providing those doors to resellers start with a fire rated door assembly from Masonite Corp and then add the window & pet door. As soon as they modify the fire rated door like that it loses its fire rating. The company appears to be in Dallas and I will call them this week to get a copy of their final product fire rated approval documentation. I'm betting that they will not likely be able to produce it though. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

After talking to a rep at http://www.doors4petsandpeople.com/ (see Products pg) they agreed that the door lost its fire rating once they installed the pet door or glass window and they would remove that fire-rated claim on their website. Now, are there a slew of others doing the same thing around country?....probably.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mboyett

After talking to a rep at http://www.doors4petsandpeople.com/ (see Products pg) they agreed that the door lost its fire rating once they installed the pet door or glass window and they would remove that fire-rated claim on their website. Now, are there a slew of others doing the same thing around country?....probably.

Well I'll be dammed, they have been selling these "Fire Rated" Pet Doors for how long???

Nice work Michael.....

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by mboyett

After talking to a rep at http://www.doors4petsandpeople.com/ (see Products pg) they agreed that the door lost its fire rating once they installed the pet door or glass window and they would remove that fire-rated claim on their website. Now, are there a slew of others doing the same thing around country?....probably.

Good info, Michael.

It seemed with the door modified it was breached...

[Jae Williams]

You might call it a "pet door"--but I call it a "raccoon door", or a "rabbit door", or a "squirrel door", or a...

[James F. McKee]

Originally Posted by jwilliams4

You might call it a "pet door"--but I call it a "raccoon door", or a "rabbit door", or a "squirrel door", or a...

they can be pets too Jay...of course here we call em targets.....