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Old 7/16/08, 11:36 PM
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I can not get it to work. Sorry



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Old 7/17/08, 11:18 AM
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I can not get it to work. Sorry
that sounds a little personal for the Message Board Carl but thanks for Sharing!!!



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Old 7/17/08, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Kickout diverters needed with all claddings

None of the roofers in my area know what a kick-out flashing is! I have asked a few of them, they say "a what?"

This is a very isolated area.
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Old 7/17/08, 11:27 AM
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You can show them this.

http://dryflekt.com/

Best one on the market! imo



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Old 7/17/08, 11:29 AM
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very few used here either Ralph....why bother to learn something new just because it may be an improvement....no time to be messin with that ..there's beer to drink and shingles to nail....time's a waisting



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Old 7/17/08, 12:27 PM
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Here Carl;

http://www.stocorp.com/allwebpr.nsf/...3?OpenDocument

http://www.stocorp.com/stotraining.n...uments/slide27

http://www.ci.alexandria.mn.us/verti...E6300972C}.PDF

http://www.ci.bloomington.mn.us/hand...53rrstucco.pdf

Look through these Carl. A lot of info on diverters.

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Old 7/21/08, 5:55 PM
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Same here. State Licensed roofers asking "what the heck is a kick out flashing? I installed this to code (meaning the local AHJ codes)!"

I have had a few new constructions where they called be back because there was water in the walls. Sure enough, no Kick-out flashings and I called it out and the contractor told them it wasn't necessary.

I just tell them, "well, I guess it is. Maybe you should install them."

Hey, I call it out. From there, it's between the client and the builder.



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Will,

On those call backs what was the cladding?

Do you have any pictures?

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Old 7/21/08, 6:31 PM
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Hi. Will, around here it is the same thing, residential contractors have never seen or heard of it or feel it is not required.

Look at this one on a house still under construction.

kickout-diverters-needed-all-claddings-dscn1590.jpg

Where is the water going to go in this set up?

Unreal.

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Hi. Will, around here it is the same thing, residential contractors have never seen or heard of it or feel it is not required.

Look at this one on a house still under construction.

Attachment 22801

Where is the water going to go in this set up?

Unreal.

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Experience has shown us all there is a better way...now all we have to do is convince them to be specific with the language (kick out diverter), field fabrication of said diverters, installation protocol and do the right thing on the homes being constructed...

We're up to the challenge, just contact them for clarification



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Default Re: Kickout diverters needed with all claddings

In Marcel's example, the basic fault lies with the designer, not the roofer. I doubt that a little kick-out device would save that wall.

I'm telling you, designing by computer puts brains in neutral, and that's how half of these things come into being. I can ride down the street and pick out buildings that were designed by computer; they stick out like sore thumbs. Their proportions are all wrong, their detailing reeks, and they often have serious errors of the kind Marcel illustrates. They look cold and lifeless, like the computer renderings of themselves. They have no soul.

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In Marcel's example, the basic fault lies with the designer, not the roofer. I doubt that a little kick-out device would save that wall.

Richard,

This could not be farther from the truth. imo



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Default Re: Kickout diverters needed with all claddings

Here are a couple of examples of kick-out flashing's and one of damage that is starting to reveal itself due to no kick-out.
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Old 7/27/08, 2:14 PM
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Here are a couple of examples of kick-out flashing's and one of damage that is starting to reveal itself due to no kick-out.
Nice photos Mark, do you have anymore of them?

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