Lack of aluminum drip edge

[Carl A. Brown]

Look at page 2. First paragraph.



http://www.bouldercreekstone.com/Lit...ion.pdf#search=

[Steve Boozer]

Sorry, maybe I'm not giving the roofer/builder proper credit, but I see this problem all the time here. Usually after it has caused major damage. The roof only covers half the width of the back of the chimney. So if just install normal back pan flashing and don't pitch it, it will put the water behind the stone since the flashing is in behind the stone. A small 1/2 cricket will prevent this, but looks odd when you block off the open end at the rake fascia. When we do these I attach a 4 inch triangular piece of metal to the rake fascia before I install the back pan. This pitches the back pan and diverts the water onto the roof and prevents it from getting behind the stone. So hopefully there is either a half cricket or the roofer knows this. I used to have some pics of this, but have lost them.

[Brenda]

Carl,

I read the paragraph you posted. I'm going to look up the specifications for Eldorado stone and find out if my installer followed the manufacturer's specs, because Eldorado is our product & it is not exactly the same as the one you posted about. Thanks for the info though.

Steve,

You lost me there on a lot of the technical wording. I'm the homeowner and builder, not a roofer, but I'm hoping my roofer will have known about what you listed. We never did see ANY leakage at all around the fireplace chimney at any point in time. We checked very thoroughly after and during every rain, before and after the stone was installed and prior to drywalling and never saw water on the upper level or near the roof. But I will talk to my roofer to see what he thinks about the points you made. There was visible metal flashing on the back part of the chimney and I asked the installers to come out and cover it with stone material, which they did. They never mentioned that this was risky though, is it? At this point we are willing to entertain any option just to get to the bottom of it all.

I have new pics of the area I think is the culprit, including some closeups so you can see just how large the gap is between the shingles and the fascia. It's a good 1" gap of exposed OSB sheathing, so I think it's reasonable that enough water (in a serious storm with the rain whipping sideways...it is very windy in this neighborhood) could get in this gap and run down the soffits towards the house and down the interior wall?

the whole side of the house where the water has been a problem

to the right of this window is where the water trickles in at the floor

the back of the porch roof, viewed from the 2nd story

closer view of fascia on back of porch roof

extreme close-up

back of the chimney, flashing used to be exposed, but covered with stone now

[Michael Bazzo, CMI]

Brenda,

Which direction does the front of the house face?
Do you have a current picture of the front of the house showing the downspout on the front porch roof?

[Brenda]

The front of the house faces west and the downspout that empties onto the top of the porch roof is also directed west I believe. The best picture I could find of the current front doesn't show exactly what you are looking for, but it's something at least....



The room in question is to the far left of the picture and the pictured downspout area is at the back of that corner.

[Brenda]

I was able to zoom in on the area in question...

[Michael Bazzo, CMI]

Brenda,

From reading your post and looking at your pictures,this is my best guess without being able to actually look at the house.

The problem started once the gutter system was installed and if you notice where the downspout from the upper level exits on the porch roof it is in the corner of the home that is leaking. weather usually travels west to east, so in this case if a severe storm is travelling to wards the front of your home with high winds, it is possible for the large amount of water that is being dispensed out of the downspout to be blown back against the house and pushed up under the siding. I have seen a few homes in the past with flashing installed incorrectly and having this very problem. it's my feeling that if it was a drip edge problem as you described, you would notice leaks upstairs also.

[David P. Valley]

Am I seeing an opening at this top course?
Attachment 4116
click to enlarge

[Steve Boozer]

Hey David. What program do you use to add that arrow and words? I think they may have ran the shingles, installed metal and then nailed a shingle on top to cover it up. But the pic is a little hard to see.

[Steve Boozer]

Brenda. If I had a pic of one that we have done it would help allot. But don't have one. So maybe print out what I wrote and show it to the roofer. He probably won't want to redo it anyway even if it is done wrong. Roofers do things different ways and all like to think their way is right. He might be willing to add a angled diverter if you pressure him a little though.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by Steve Boozer

Hey David. What program do you use to add that arrow and words?

Attachment 4118

[Michael Larson]

Thanks David but those are all UK links. Try this instead.

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...ure+premium+10