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This deck has numerous leaning deck support posts, some 20 feet high; apparently they didn't want to excavate any more rock. Aside from pointing out the obvious, e.g., leaning posts, how would you call this out?
Tim M. Hance All Islands Home Inspections |
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I usually recommend not allowing anyone on a deck until proper repairs are made when the issues are serious like this one.
Also make it clear that major, expensive changes will likely be incurred. B.A. King Home Inspections, LLC www.BAKingHomeInspections.com Serving Charlotte NC area and Rock Hill SC areas. CMI Certified Master Inspector and Independent 704 301-3207 "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought." - Albert Szent-Gyvrgyi, Nobel Prize for Medicine 1937 |
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obvious poor framing techniques....recommend repair before use...
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bjones1 is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
I' d dangle the carpenter that framed that upside down from the railing and see if it collapses
Up here, everywhere you go is rock. I've built quite a few decks and it's not too hard to build them the right way. |
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What is the appropriate way to connect to the rock at about a 60 degree angle like that...or how should it be done? ____________________________________________ "An Education, not just an Inspection" Larry Kage, CMI Lake Ann (Traverse City), Michigan 49650 231 929 3525 Professional Inspector and Infrared Thermographer serving the Traverse City, Michigan area and beyond. ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED BUILDING SCIENCES THERMOGRAPHER ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED LEVEL 1 THERMOGRAPHER
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Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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bjones1 is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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"Those appear to be 4" x 4" posts and quite long at that. In our jurisdiction any deck post over 8' must be 6"x6". The deck must also be framed to the same standard as any floor system in the house. Posts should be braced/tied back to something solid to prevent the post movement and the bottoms solidly attached to concrete bases." 6X6 must also be used here too. What I have done when encountering rock is, drill some holes as deep as I can, frame a deep footing on the rock and pour concrete into the holes and form. I then put a saddle in to hold the 6x6 or 4x4 or whatever I am using. I have found that most hills move ever so slightly downwards over time, so when it comes time to install the post's, I angle them about 80 degrees with the bottoms towards the hill. In about 10 - 15 years, the post's are level or 90 degrees. Since they are screwed to the saddle, they can then be moved back a bit as needed. Hope this helps Brian Jones |
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Richard A. Hetzel is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
...and if the deck was level when it was built, it ain't level any more, or, if it's level after it moves, then it was a little hilly when it was new.
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I like to build on something that won't move myself.
This is a new one on me to compensate for movement unless it is designed for Siesmic Activities and planned to move, but rest in in same place after the movement. Marcel http://www.themainehomeinspector.com/ Serving all of Kennebec County and Central Maine Cyr Home and Commercial Property Inspections IAC2 Certified http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards Inachi 2009 US Member of the Year Master Shingle Applicator Shingle Technology Ouellet Associaties Inc. http://www.oaconstruction.com/ |
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I only bring that up when they see a crack in the floor and all worried about it.
Marcel http://www.themainehomeinspector.com/ Serving all of Kennebec County and Central Maine Cyr Home and Commercial Property Inspections IAC2 Certified http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards Inachi 2009 US Member of the Year Master Shingle Applicator Shingle Technology Ouellet Associaties Inc. http://www.oaconstruction.com/ |
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Maybe I missed something, but is that a pier poured not in line with the rest. Couldn't blow it up any bigger.
In the world view we are all important and our mere existence effects all life. Jack Gilleland Home Inspection Services Clayton Commercial, Multifamily, and Residential jgilleland1@att.net Ohio_Commercial and_Home_Inspections activerain Last edited by jgilleland; 1/31/08 at 11:36 PM.. |
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I advised repair by a qualified contractor and strongly cautioned clients to avoid the deck at all costs- for safety reasons- until repaired / replaced. Obviously the owner thought he was improving his property (for resale) with a new deck (it looks great from above!). He didn't even use pressure treated wood for deck joists (he used 2x6 untreated douglas fir which will quickly decay in our moist NW climate). Sure, it's a difficult site; but that's no excuse for compromising safety. If anything, the difficulty of the site warrants extra diligent attention to proper construction practices. Tim M. Hance All Islands Home Inspections |
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