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Old 5/15/10, 2:33 AM
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This is a 13 year old home without kickout flashing. Hard to argue with a good photo or two.

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Classic picture...

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Mark, can I have permission to use this photo in the roof course?

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Mark, can I have permission to use this photo in the roof course?

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Absolutely, feel free.

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From the Shaq on Friday afternoon:
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Hey Mark! Great Pic.

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Hey Mark! Great Pic.

How's HI treating you these days? Glad to "see" ya.
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This is a 13 year old home without kickout flashing. Hard to argue with a good photo or two.

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Here's one of my favorites (friend decided to have a patio cover installed and this is what they found. Pic 2 is the back of the fireplace)
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Here's one of my favorites (friend decided to have a patio cover installed and this is what they found. Pic 2 is the back of the fireplace)
Nice, no building wrap?

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Nice, no building wrap?

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Not only kick-out. Gutter would solve the problem.
That is a funny transition on the siding. Is there flashing onder the horizontal board that is transitioned just under the eave ? That could be problematic in the lifespan of the siding.
Also looks like a low spot in the walkway alongside the home in photo # 2. Is it EFIS, is it hard coat stucco ?



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Question -

We always recommend kickout flashing if not present.

Twice recently a listing agent got a friendly codes officer to STATE in writing they're NOT needed AND not required by code.

Both times 4x8 panels of fiberous hardboard siding.

Now I really don't give a crap AND I know codes state components MUST be installed to MANUFACTURERS guidelines. Anybody got instructions or references (esp code type for sidings and kickouts.
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Old 3/25/11, 9:23 PM
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Question -

We always recommend kickout flashing if not present.

Twice recently a listing agent got a friendly codes officer to STATE in writing they're NOT needed AND not required by code.

Both times 4x8 panels of fiberous hardboard siding.

Now I really don't give a crap AND I know codes state components MUST be installed to MANUFACTURERS guidelines. Anybody got instructions or references (esp code type for sidings and kickouts.

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IRC R905.2.8.3 Sidewall flashing. Flashing against a vertical sidewall
shall be by the step-flashing method. The flashing shall be
a minimum of 4 inches (102 mm) high and 4 inches (102 mm)
wide. At the end of the vertical sidewall the step
flashing shall be turned out in a manner that
directs water away from the wall and
onto the roof and/or gutter.

IRC R703.1 General. Exterior walls shall provide the building
with a weather-resistant exterior wall envelope. The exterior
wall envelope shall include flashing as described in Section
R703.8. The exterior wall envelope shall be designed and
constructed in a manner that prevents the accumulation of
water within the wall assembly by providing a water-resistant
barrier behind the exterior veneer as required by Section
R703.2. and a means of draining water that enters the assembly
to the exterior.

IRC R703.8 Flashing. Approved corrosion-resistant flashing shall
be applied shingle-fashion in such a manner to prevent entry of
water into the wall cavity or penetration of water to the building
structural framing components. The flashing shall extend to the
surface of the exterior wall finish. Approved corrosion-resistant
flashings shall be installed at all of the following locations:

1. Exterior window and door openings. Flashing at exterior
window and door openings shall extend to the surface of
the exterior wall finish or to the water-resistive barrier
for subsequent drainage.
2. At the intersection of chimneys or other masonry construction
with frame or stucco walls, with projecting lips
on both sides under stucco copings.
3. Under and at the ends of masonry, wood or metal copings
and sills.
4. Continuously above all projecting wood trim.
5. Where exterior porches, decks or stairs attach to a wall or
floor assembly of wood-frame construction.
6. At wall and roof intersections.
7. At built-in gutters.

IRC Commentary:
The code requires that all points subject to the entry of
moisture be appropriately flashed. Roof and wall intersections
and parapets create significant challenges,
as do exterior wall openings exposed to the weather.
Where wind-driven rain is expected, the concerns are
even greater. Self-adhered flashing is required to comply
with AAMA 711. Although the code identifies a
number of locations where flashing is specifically required,
the entire exterior envelope must be weather
tight to protect the interior from weather. Therefore,
any location on the exterior envelope that provides a
route for the admission of water or moisture into the
building must be properly protected. Commentary Figure
R703.8 illustrates examples of flashing.



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Old 3/25/11, 10:17 PM
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Larry -

Appreciate this BUT already saw it and still doesn't use word kickout even if it describes one
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