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Old 12/16/07, 1:07 AM
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When I got to the inspection they were removing some of the shingles to replace. The owner showed me the Owens Corning installation instructions that he printed for his roofer to install. He made sure that the roofer, his friend, followed his instructions.

The leaks were coming form all over the roof surface not any areas with flashing, only 3 terminations on this affected side of roof. Ice damming has not hapened as we have not had snow yet.
Was the "roofer" a ROOFER (licensed, trained, insured, professional), of just the client's "friend"?



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Old 12/16/07, 1:12 AM
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In my county PA requires no licensing for contracting. Even though a barber and nail manicurist need a license if you can believe that.
Nuff said!

Licensing solves some things (like leaky roofs!!! and a decent haircut), if the client understands the process and takes the time to understand.

BUT, clients are, usually, just people and want the 5 Mil job while only paying 29.95 per square.


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Old 12/16/07, 6:57 AM
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The roofer was a friend of this guy who was a carpenter for 20 years with the union here in SW PA. In some of the rural parts around here, when your a teen in high school you take carpentry classes at a Tech school. That is just how things have been for 40-50 years. Most of these guys in the rural parts are quite skilled at carpentry. However, this guy is not a true roofer.

Yes Will, the kid got a free roof, from a trade. Nuff said!!!

This young mans father traded equiptment for the roof materials and installation, I do not what type or quantity.



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Old 12/16/07, 9:10 AM
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It was a tear off.
Ventilation was supplied by ridge/soffit vents & small gabels.

In my county PA requires no licensing for contracting. Even though a barber and nail manicurist need a license if you can believe that.
Was all this ventilation there for the old roof or was some added with the new roof?
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Old 12/16/07, 5:09 PM
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Michael,

I agree with some of the above. I'd start looking for a professional roofing contractor familiar with the installation standards, instructions, etc.
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Old 12/16/07, 6:16 PM
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I have seen some lower priced and generic off name brands of supposed ice and water shield materials, which were nothing other than a glorified silica sand coated base felt paper.

The adhesion qualities of most of the brands are far inferior to the Grace Ice and Water Shield. I would not be surprised in the least, if the nail holes have not been sealed by the elasticity, or lack thereof, of the product used.

The sure seal technology, does not offer a water-tight seal, but just more adhesive strength for wind blow off.

Water flowage can go backwards under the shingles by cappilary action, thus finding the nail penetration holes and will leak all over.

It sounds as if they "Added" a gable vent to the attic environment, which minorly be a concern due to the short circuiting ventilation theory. I highly doubt that to be very practicle though, since there is such a minimal attic cavity on a 2/12 pitch to begin with.

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Old 12/16/07, 6:58 PM
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Was all this ventilation there for the old roof or was some added with the new roof?
Ventilation was all there for original roof as sated by owner.

I could not verify ice gaurd used by installer, it very well could have been a generic brand.
I did recommend evaluation by a qualified roofing contractor for necessary repairs.



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Old 12/16/07, 7:00 PM
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Nothing under a 3 pitch should have shingles on it, is the MFG. going to warranty it?
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Old 12/16/07, 7:14 PM
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MFG has on its website, owenscorning http://www.owenscorning.com/around/r...on_install.pdf , page 3, that you can go as low as 2/12. I would never do this myself.



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