Stone Veneer Siding

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Fabricated Stone Veneer Siding

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Joe, your Masons are almost as good as your Carpenters. ha. ha.

Your full of good one's Joe this morning.

Marcel

[bdoles2]

I see the Home Depots here sell this stuff off the shelf.

Get ready for DIY's to try and install this.

[homebild]

So what are your supposed 'problems' here?

Without knowing the type of veneer and type of fastening required by the manufacturer, it isn't possible to say, is it?

Looks like a 'dry stack' installation to me.

Only thing I can see that is lacking is a proper 'weep screed' if the stone was installed since 2004 under the 2003 IRC.

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by homebild

So what are your supposed 'problems' here?

Without knowing the type of veneer and type of fastening required by the manufacturer, it isn't possible to say, is it?

Looks like a 'dry stack' installation to me.

Only thing I can see that is lacking is a proper 'weep screed' if the stone was installed since 2004 under the 2003 IRC.

Stone (Fabricated) was recently installed and is already shedding its veneer....

The exposed insulation of the EIFS on the adjacent wall adds a nice touch....

[homebild]

Originally Posted by jhagarty

Stone (Fabricated) was recently installed and is already shedding its veneer....

The exposed insulation of the EIFS on the adjacent wall adds a nice touch....

Huh?

Fabricated Stone has a veneer?

Looks like a caulking problem to me, not a fabricated stone problem....

But you never did answer the question as to the type of stone veneer or it's means of fastening.

All due respect, but I'm just not getting what you are finding "wrong" here, Joe.

Please explain further.

Your pictures are not speaking for themselves....

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by homebild

Huh?

Fabricated Stone has a veneer?

Looks like a caulking problem to me, not a fabricated stone problem....

But you never did answer the question as to the type of stone veneer or it's means of fastening.

All due respect, but I'm just not getting what you are finding "wrong" here, Joe.

Please explain further.

Your pictures are not speaking for themselves....

Fabricated stone is the siding.

Much of it is loose. Some of it is falling off onto the roof below.

I do not find it unreasonable for the siding to remain on the exterior walls of the home after it is installed.

Do you disagree?

[William M. Corbett]

They look very similar to stones that I have used in the past. They are light weight, however, I would think that there should be some sort of support such as a brick ledge.

[homebild]

Originally Posted by jhagarty

Fabricated stone is the siding.

Much of it is loose. Some of it is falling off onto the roof below.

I do not find it unreasonable for the siding to remain on the exterior walls of the home after it is installed.

Do you disagree?

Not at all, but your photos did not say that nor give any evidence of what your professional examination of the property revealed.

Could not tell much, if anything, was wrong from your pictures alone without commentary, Joe.

You're a good man and have my respect as always.

Let's continue another day...

homebild

[homebild]

Originally Posted by wcorbett

They look very similar to stones that I have used in the past. They are light weight, however, I would think that there should be some sort of support such as a brick ledge.

There are many different types of stone veneers and many different types of fastening methods for stone veneers.

'True' stone veneers, like brick veneer, might require a brick ledge.

Facing stones are typically mortared onto a basecoat of exterior 'plaster' and do not need normally need brick ledges.

Some types of artificial stone are installed using nails, screws or other fasteners.

It is not possible from the photos alone to tell just what we are looking at or looking for here.

And without knowing the type of veneer and it's fastening method, not quite possible to say if any 'defects' at all exist.

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by wcorbett

They look very similar to stones that I have used in the past. They are light weight, however, I would think that there should be some sort of support such as a brick ledge.

I believe the fake stuff does not need a brick ledge. Real "stacked" stone would need a ledge, just as a brick veneer needs a ledge or lintel.

I think it's pretty obvious this stuff here is a fake stone. When looking at the photo that is taken from the ground looking up at the bottom of the veneer, those are obviously manufactured corner pieces. A true stacked stone corner piece is not "perfectly notched" to fit around corners. Plus you can see manufacturing similiarities in the first course and fifth course corner pieces as seen in photo #2.

JMO, but I'm sure someone will correct me in awhile.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

It is faux stone Brian.

Check out this link and go under install.
http://www.eldoradostone.com/flashsi...FSWQGgodfX9tLw


Marcel

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by mcyr

It is faux stone Brian.

Check out this link and go under install.
http://www.eldoradostone.com/flashsi...FSWQGgodfX9tLw


Marcel

Thanks Marcel...good info as usual !

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Thanks for the link Marcel.

Install in this case is a dry stack pattern. Is it normal for the stones to be loose and/or detach from the wall?

The stones that have detached are clean on the back surface of the stone. It appears that the grout is not adhering properly. Is there a particular scenario that may cause this?

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by jhagarty

Thanks for the link Marcel.

Install in this case is a dry stack pattern. Is it normal for the stones to be loose and/or detach from the wall?

The stones that have detached are clean on the back surface of the stone. It appears that the grout is not adhering properly. Is there a particular scenario that may cause this?

Poor mortar mix, maybe even wrong mortar all together??