What to tell this homeowner

[Carl A. Brown]

How do you write this stucco up?
http://www.badstucco.com/1coat/1COAT.htm

Thanks!

[Jay Moge]

looks like a bad mix that dried to fast. or had some other complication. i'd recommend total evaluation and repair from stucco EXPERT. what ever that means.

[Carl A. Brown]

All of the above Jay.
The bad thing is it is in the same subdivision as most of these!
http://www.badstucco.com/Leaks101_files/frame.htm
They were done by the same stucco cooooonnnntractor!
Over osb that just loves water and turns to mold candy. And swells when wet. Therefore makeing more cracks! Letting in more water.
Homeowners dont stand a chance!
http://www.badstucco.com/howwe.htm

[Jay Moge]

neither do their homes. i like the "mold candy" line. can i use that one.

[Carl A. Brown]

Originally Posted by Jay Moge

neither do their homes. i like the "mold candy" line. can i use that one.

Yes Sir!

[Jay Moge]

hay, i might be younger than you. besides "sir" was a term i used in the navy that means Severly Iritated Rectum. or pain in the *** for short. but realy, thanx.

[Carl A. Brown]

What makes you think I am older?

[Jay Moge]

i don't, just that as inspectors go, i'm kinda on the young side. 31 to be excact. plus, Carl is a very old name.ha ha. j/k.

[Carl A. Brown]

Well you got me!!! I have been doing stucco sence you were 4 years old!
And I am only 44!

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Carl:

1 Coat Stucco. Poor Installation.

Recommend Siding replacement. What is the question?

[Carl A. Brown]

Originally Posted by jhagarty

Carl:

1 Coat Stucco. Poor Installation.

Recommend Siding replacement. What is the question?

JH
I was just looking for educated opinions!
Personally I want to tell the people in the hole subdivision to sue the city for letting it happen! The codes officials really dropped the ball! And when I contacted them about it they just blew me off!

Most of thessepictures were taken in the same subdivision!
http://www.badstucco.com/Leaks101_files/frame.htm

And then this is what happened in the state capitol. And it is wrong and things need to change!
http://www.badstucco.com/howwe.htm

And I figure if I keep throwing it out and around somebody will see it that has clout and start getting things changed!

At this pointe these houses not only need to be resided but resheathed and probably structural work as well.

And from what I understand it is a nation wide problem!
I am just trying to give other people a heads up on some of the possibilities!

OSB swells and turns moldy rather quick the more it swells the more cracks you guys will see in the stucco and the more it could leak water into the structure!!

Sorry for the RANT!

ps. Hard coat stucco issues are going to put EIFS to shame!

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

JH

I was just looking for educated opinions!!

Are you suggesting that 1 Coat Stucco applications are acceptable?

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by cbrown1

How do you write this stucco up?

Carl you don't need to...tell them to look at the neighbors.........

[Carl A. Brown]

Originally Posted by jhagarty

Are you suggesting that 1 Coat Stucco applications are acceptable?

Not in my book!
Neither are unflashed windows and trim. Nor housewrap with the flashing over it instead of under it! With all the horizontal joints taped and sill flashing that is reversed lap! And that is how they say to install tyvek! So the houses are set up to fail and thats just some of the housewrap issues!
Most of the premixed onecoat products on the market I have seen the sand is to fine and it causes alot of cracks!

[pcarter-old-04]

Carl,
A couple of questions on this.
What type of mesh are they using on the OSB to apply the stucco to?
Are they sealing the bottom edges of the OSB and if so how?
Since wood products expand and contract during the seasons, how do they apply the stucco to counteract against expansion and contraction with two very different products? wood and cement
Last question, since this does not appear to be a Traditional Stucco application, is this type of application considered a hybrid?

I have noticed in my area, that the contractors here are starting to use this type of stucco application on new construction, so I am very curious on the service life and known problems associated with this.

Thanks for your help.