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Old 12/28/07, 4:02 PM
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This house is 11 months old...I have never seen anything quit like it...The Kickout Flashing has gapping holes below each one (because they forgot to install any lath and stucco).

Here is the top of one Kickout.....
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Here is the Bottom of the Kickout......






Around every window and any other Pop-Out in the stucco they Forgot to install Lath............

I can stick my fingers through areas where the stucco 1/16th of an inch is not laying on the ground or laying on roof tiles below the windows........
















This is only a portion of the things wrong with this 11 month old home I inspected this morning....the garage floor is sloped toward the house, the driveway concrete is higher than the garage floor, the sub-flooring is loose at the second floor, there are cracks in the stucco at numerous locations where I cannot see any lath at all (probably forgot it)......

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Old 12/28/07, 4:18 PM
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Dale, that is totally unbelievable.
And what kind of price tag this this carry?

Can't the Builder of this house be crucified for a building 11 months old?

Warranty for the seller? Yes, No.

How in hell dose this pass inspection when it gets built.

If I did something like that around here as a builder I would be thrown out of the State.

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Old 12/28/07, 4:21 PM
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a little buble gum some duct tape, good as new.. right? you know the saying putty and paint make it what it ain't.

Can't believe this on a home less than a year old.
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Old 12/28/07, 4:25 PM
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It seems like anything that has to do with Stucco or EIFS is just simply bad. Not the product, but the installation or lack thereof. No lath, flashings, weep screeds..
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Old 12/28/07, 4:33 PM
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Erol,.
What is it going to take to get these Manufactures to mandate Certification for Contractors to go out and install their products?

Seems like something needs done, Certification, education, licenseing, what.

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Old 12/28/07, 4:45 PM
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Dale, that is totally unbelievable.
And what kind of price tag this this carry?
This house is 1.5 miles from mine, I did not ask what he paid, but a guess would be around $750-850,000

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Can't the Builder of this house be crucified for a building 11 months old?

I inspected it for the owner, his one year warranty inspection.


The builder has to warranty the Stucco for a year, but since this was not installed correctly in the first place he can by Arizona law sue the builder at any time up to 8 years after he closed escrow.

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Warranty for the seller? Yes, No.

Yes Marcel, it's the owners one year warranty....his wife was crying when I showed them the stucco, the entire little development was built by the same builder, and according to this owner, his house is the first of 55 homes in which the warranty is due next month...so I will have many more homes to inspect in this development very soon (I looked at the house next door, it has the same issues). This family said they would spread the word, I gave him a handful of business cards--)))


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How in hell dose this pass inspection when it gets built.
Blows my mind, I have no idea where the City of Scottsdale inspector was when they gave the go ahead to stucco it....

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If I did something like that around here as a builder I would be thrown out of the State.
These conditions are very, very common here...but this one is about the worst I have seen in a while in Scottsdale.....except of course the other subdivision I'm inspecting in Phoenix where the builder is re-stucco-ing every house in the development....


Crazy huh?......
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Old 12/28/07, 4:48 PM
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I am more cautious about inspecting new homes, than old ones sometimes.
They enjoyed a lot of bong pipes and beer on this one, it appears.



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I had one about a year ago where they forgot to install a heat source in a full bath.
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It seems like anything that has to do with Stucco or EIFS is just simply bad. Not the product, but the installation or lack thereof. No lath, flashings, weep screeds..
It is always something Erol yes....for some reason they all seem to think installing any type of exterior finish system with cement stucco is like building a rocket ship......

Some of the stucco contractors here have to be some of the dumbest bastards on earth.....

Frankly it is simply unbelievable....
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Old 12/28/07, 4:54 PM
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I am more cautious about inspecting new homes, than old ones sometimes.
They enjoyed a lot of bong pipes and beer on this one, it appears.
TI cam would probably come in handy today "A" John......

I need to get one......
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Old 12/28/07, 4:56 PM
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TI cam would probably come in handy today "A" John......

I need to get one......
Once you use an IR camera, it will scare the hell out of you, when you realize
all the years you were blind.



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Old 12/28/07, 5:01 PM
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Once you use an IR camera, it will scare the hell out of you, when you realize
all the years you were blind.
I hear you there brother...I hear you.....

This owner must of talked to the next door neighbor already....I just scheduled his inspection......

Lets see, what is $429.00 X 55 homes.............
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Old 12/28/07, 5:10 PM
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I hear you there brother...I hear you.....

This owner must of talked to the next door neighbor already....I just scheduled his inspection......

Lets see, what is $429.00 X 55 homes.............
It means a new IR camera... this week!!!!



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Old 12/28/07, 5:16 PM
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The garage floor is sloped the wrong way and the driveway is higher than the garage floor (I added a little water to show the owner because I saw an existing water stain on the garage floor)......




The wood trim at the bottom of each door has large gaps and is not sealed-finished-painted...
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Holes like this all over the house.....




The natural gas valves cannot be turned off because they have the appliance connectors like banjo strings to close to the black iron pipe at both fireplaces......


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Old 12/28/07, 6:28 PM
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I did not see the first hint of any mesh behind the EIFS finish in your pics. I seriously doubt if the installers have ever even heard of EIMA, let alone the standards. Unfortunately, I see pretty much the same thing here. I have actually only found one house where the installer knew what he was doing. The builder told me it was some new fella in town after I asked who did it. I told the builder not to lose his phone number. Was this a full EIFS exterior or a hybrid?
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