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Old 12/28/07, 8:44 PM
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It is always something Erol yes....for some reason they all seem to think installing any type of exterior finish system with cement stucco is like building a rocket ship......

Some of the stucco contractors here have to be some of the dumbest bastards on earth.....

Frankly it is simply unbelievable....
Hi Dale!

It is sad to see crap like this.

This is what happens when the Trades are paid "Piece work". They could care less about the quality of the work. They (trades) are focused solely on the bottom line. IMO piece work takes the pride and the time needed away from trades to complete a particular job. You know the deal, this guarantees production for the builder. That's why it's the preferred method of payment for all trades.
I might add that sometimes (not always) the builder is scum as well. We don't know if the trades are getting paid, cheated by the builder etc. It is no excuse by any means but that's life my friend.
BTW It must be a universal thing with stucco guys!! They are a breed of their own. I have seen the same crap here.
I agree with Marcel,they should all be run out of the state!





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Old 12/28/07, 9:17 PM
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Was this a full EIFS exterior or a hybrid?
Hi Doug,

They usually install a vapor barrier against the exterior wall studs, staple styrofoam and chicken wire to the entire exterior, and slap on two coats of stucco which are supposed to be a minimum pf 3/8ths of an inch.

If I want to, I could push my finger through any portion of the exterior walls, I just pushed my fingers through the pop-outs which already had the stucco laying on the ground because there was no lath, they simply smeared a 1/16 of an inch over the styrofoam.
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Old 12/28/07, 9:19 PM
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Hi Dale!

It is sad to see crap like this.

This is what happens when the Trades are paid "Piece work". They could care less about the quality of the work. They (trades) are focused solely on the bottom line. IMO piece work takes the pride and the time needed away from trades to complete a particular job. You know the deal, this guarantees production for the builder. That's why it's the preferred method of payment for all trades.
I might add that sometimes (not always) the builder is scum as well. We don't know if the trades are getting paid, cheated by the builder etc. It is no excuse by any means but that's life my friend.
BTW It must be a universal thing with stucco guys!! They are a breed of their own. I have seen the same crap here.
I agree with Marcel,they should all be run out of the state!
Nobody cares about anything Mario....!!!!.....

There is no such thing as a carpenter anymore, or at least I sure don't know any.....
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Old 12/28/07, 10:12 PM
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The migrants are coming and going.
Lot's of American money is flying south with Americans taking it in the south end.

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Old 12/28/07, 10:29 PM
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Bear...in the last picture it looks like the weep flashing is doing it's thing.....
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Old 12/28/07, 10:45 PM
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Some of the stucco contractors here have to be some of the dumbest bastards on earth.....

Frankly it is simply unbelievable....

Dale,

Thats an UNDERSTATEMENT!



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Old 12/28/07, 11:04 PM
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If the stucco connnntractors are getting away with all that crap what are they covering up?



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Old 12/28/07, 11:18 PM
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If the stucco connnntractors are getting away with all that crap what are they covering up?
Split Warped Fingerjoint 2x4's with holes drilled in the joints.....

OSB (shear walls only) water logged.....

No window flashing.....

No flashing at all.....

No chicken wire......

No barrier.....

No Brainers.....

No Kickouts.....
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Old 12/28/07, 11:22 PM
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No drainage planes.

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Old 12/28/07, 11:25 PM
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No drainage planes.

For the Bong water.........
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Old 12/28/07, 11:25 PM
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Come on guys please do not get me started!

Take a deep breath Dale. Let it go!



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Old 12/28/07, 11:29 PM
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Come on guys please do not get me started!

Take a deep breath Dale. Let it go!
Hey brother...I didn't pull them pictures on page one here from a Bong.......
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Old 12/28/07, 11:33 PM
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For the Bong water.........
If the dang stucco produces a free buzz, I'll lay underneath it with a funnel in my mouth.
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Old 12/28/07, 11:35 PM
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If the dang stucco produces a free buzz, I'll lay underneath it with a funnel in my mouth.
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Old 12/28/07, 11:40 PM
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I shut down the rating system after I got reddies for saying good morning.
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