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Old 1/24/08, 6:03 PM
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Default Vapor Barrier Question

Today was the first time I saw ice on someone's living room wall that was not the result of a wild party. I know that part of the problem is missing insulation. But does this usually mean there's no vapor barrier facing the interior wall if moisture has passed through it?
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Old 1/24/08, 6:39 PM
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Today was the first time I saw ice on someone's living room wall that was not the result of a wild party.
I know that part of the problem is missing insulation.
But does this usually mean there's no vapor barrier facing the interior wall if moisture has passed through it?
No I expect the Moisture is from the inside .
Does the home have high humidity.
Was this by chance behind drapes or curtains.
Was this on the North side of the home .
Does the wind blow hard on this side of the home .
I have been lead to believe if the home has been painted many times that is just about as good as a plastic Barrier except for plugs and switches.
I think you are on the correct thinking little or no Insulation.
So are there bath fans that they use.
Are there Kitchen exhaust that they use .
Does the dryer vent into the home .
Are there fish tanks or a lot of plants .
Is it a dirt floor in Basement or Crawl space .

Sorry I have gone on a little but all this info is also great for the newer Home Inspector.
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Old 1/24/08, 6:52 PM
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Hi Roy,

I'm on the phone with Gerry B. right now. He asked some of the things you have. I need to go on a vacation and rest because I forgot to mention that the house is filled with a couple dozen kids all day. I suppose that would have something to do with it.
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Old 1/24/08, 7:01 PM
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Hi Roy,

I'm on the phone with Gerry B. right now. He asked some of the things you have. I need to go on a vacation and rest because I forgot to mention that the house is filled with a couple dozen kids all day. I suppose that would have something to do with it.
Hi. Erol, I talked to Gerry B. myself a few days ago, and that was very nice and always informative and nice person to talk to.
Went to one of his seminars and they were excellent.

Marcel
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Old 1/24/08, 7:05 PM
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Hi Roy,

I'm on the phone with Gerry B. right now. He asked some of the things you have. I need to go on a vacation and rest because I forgot to mention that the house is filled with a couple dozen kids all day. I suppose that would have something to do with it.
You bet wet diapers Spilled bottles and they also breath out a lot of Moisture .
I think the have very high humidity needs an automatic Dehumidifier self draining even if it has to be put up on a table hose to sink.
Should make huge difference in about 3 weeks as every thing in the home has absorbed this Moisture .
I would not be surprised to see Mould
( Mold for my southern friends )
Did you by Chance get a humidity reading .
Good luck hope we have helped .
Gerry B has been around and has a huge knowledge.
A small circulating fan could help, even a overhead paddle fan.

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Old 1/24/08, 7:19 PM
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Erol, I was busy with another post, but kind of figured that my Ridealong Trainee would do his best to help you out, and see that he did. Good job Roy.

Isn't it amazing how some of these trainee's pick it up so fast?

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P.S. Hi. Roy

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Today was the first time I saw ice on someone's living room wall
My God......

I would have a "For Sale By Owner" sign in "MY" yard..............


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My God......

I would have a "For Sale By Owner" sign in "MY" yard..............


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Maybe the paper side of the insulation isn't paper sided.

He's already planning to have a siding dude remove some panels and search for crud.
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Old 1/24/08, 9:11 PM
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Maybe the paper side of the insulation isn't paper sided.

He's already planning to have a siding dude remove some panels and search for crud.
I was referring to YOU...NOT him................

The day I start coming across ice on interior walls, it's "RR1 Bangcock" for me.......


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I was referring to YOU...NOT him................

The day I start coming across ice on interior walls, it's "RR1 Bangcock" for me.......


...................

I get all the good ones.

Sump pumps that don't drain, idiots that want me to thermal scan their spark plugs in old cars, one guy who wanted me to search for radioactivity in his yard and another guy who offered $200 for a four bedroom inspection. That's my January.
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Old 1/24/08, 9:31 PM
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I get all the good ones.

Sump pumps that don't drain, idiots that want me to thermal scan their spark plugs in old cars, one guy who wanted me to search for radioactivity in his yard and another guy who offered $200 for a four bedroom inspection. That's my January.
Ahhh...Don't feel bad...I had a lady who simply wants the builder to stucco a one foot by ten foot portion of the repossessed house she bought today that is 11 months old in which they forgot to stucco...........

I told her not to fret none...........the State inspectors at the Arizona Registrar of Contractors call me Duff........

The builder will stucco it....believe me.........
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Maybe I'll just move to Arizona. I can work part time at Jack In The Box when it's slow.
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Old 1/24/08, 9:47 PM
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Erol, I was busy with another post, but kind of figured that my Ridealong Trainee would do his best to help you out, and see that he did. Good job Roy.

Isn't it amazing how some of these trainee's pick it up so fast?

Marcel

P.S. Hi. Roy
It would not take many more Like Marcel to make this a fantastic world.
His attitude just rubs of and makes every one happy .
So glad to have been able to work with him over the years been good .


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Hi. Erol, I talked to Gerry B. myself a few days ago, and that was very nice and always informative and nice person to talk to.
Went to one of his seminars and they were excellent.

Marcel
I'll be attending Gerry's commercial course in March. From what Gerry told me today, it would be in the best interest of anyone within reasonable distance to Chicago area to attend.
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Old 1/24/08, 11:43 PM
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Maybe I'll just move to Arizona. I can work part time at Jack In The Box when it's slow.
No such thing as slow here...I have never been so busy.
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