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Old 3/24/07, 4:50 AM
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Nice, informative,post Barry.

Here's a pic. (maybe) to go with it. This was my most recent build job.It's all vinyl,including posts and railings.I framed,roofed ,sided ,painted the interior and trimed it out myself.The rest was left to my subs.

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Hey Cheremie, That's a nice big house, is that for yourself or for sale?
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Weather Resistant Barrier


Vinyl siding has always been designed as an exterior cladding, not a weather resistant barrier.
Vinyl siding is designed to allow the material underneath it to breathe; therefore, it is not a watertight covering.


Because of its design and application, it provides a supplemental rain screen

that enhances the weather resistant barrier system by reducing the amount of water that reaches the underlying weather resistant barrier.



What Is a Weather Resistant Barrier System?
It is a system that includes water shedding materials and water diversion materials. Weather resistant barrier systems commonly consist of a combination of exterior cladding, flashed wall openings and penetrations, weather resistant barrier material, and sheathing. Effective weather resistant barrier systems will shed the water initially, control moisture flowby capillary and diffusion action, and minimize absorption into the wall structure. The level of weather resistance required is determined by the applicable building code and structure.



Best Practice:
To achieve designed performance, vinyl siding must be installed over a weather resistant barrier system that includes 1) a continuous weather resistant material and 2) properly integrated flashing around all penetrations and where vinyl siding interfaces with other building products such asbrick, stone, or stucco. Refer to the manufacturer’s installation manual for specific product applications and recommendations. Whichever product(s) you decide to use as part of a weather resistant barrier system, be certain the materials meet the applicable code by contacting the manufacturer of the weather resistant barrier material(s). Always consult the applicable building code for minimum weather barrier requirements in your area. Keep in mind that additional measures may provide better protection against water intrusion than the minimum requirements of the building code.

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In most cases, I find the vinyl siding installed directly over the OSB. Do others find this as well?





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Hey Cheremie, That's a nice big house, is that for yourself or for sale?
Naw.I can't afford and would never want a house that big ,4000sf.
I built it for someone.It's on the windiest hill top on the planet.I work in all kinds of weather but it's the windy days that really make me drag *****.

Personally, all I need is a little shack and a lot of open road.
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In most cases, I find the vinyl siding installed directly over the OSB. Do others find this as well?





Yea, I see that sometimes too.Usually by people trying to save a buck.
Fan fold insulation is only $38-$40.00 a "bale" and covers 3 sq.The extra cost isn't great enough to justify skimping.Although it's R-value is ,I think,about 1 it does block wind.
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Yes that's true, but I also find it with tyvek paper, and some with Insulation behind the siding
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So, are you saying there is something wrong with the siding I inspected today?
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So, are you saying there is something wrong with the siding I inspected today?
well gee, ida know, u might want to paint thet thar wood tho.
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Nice, informative,post Barry.

Here's a pic. (maybe) to go with it. This was my most recent build job.It's all vinyl,including posts and railings.I framed,roofed ,sided ,painted the interior and trimed it out myself.The rest was left to my subs.
I have a question, Cheremie. Where the big garage roof comes down and hits the side of the big house, did you run a big valley flashing up the wall? I'm trying to imagine 2 feet of snow in that space between the house and the garage.

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Cheremie, that's a nearly identical copy of my own home. A stock, popular plan called "Riverbend". Mind doesn't have the garage pasted on the back, though.
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Nice, informative,post Barry.

Here's a pic. (maybe) to go with it. This was my most recent build job.It's all vinyl,including posts and railings.I framed,roofed ,sided ,painted the interior and trimmed it out myself.The rest was left to my subs.
Really nice work and glad to know craftspersons are still hard at it.
Are those aliens above the garage?
FYI: 9850 Aberdeen, O.P. KS, Nallwood J.H., S.M. South, back in the mid '60s



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I have a question, Cheremie. Where the big garage roof comes down and hits the side of the big house, did you run a big valley flashing up the wall? I'm trying to imagine 2 feet of snow in that space between the house and the garage.

JohnK
John,
You can't tell from the pic , but the garage roof doesn't actually run into the side wall.
The 4/12 porch roof goes around the corner (in shadow) and further back about six feet.The 12/12 garage roof and the porch roof actually meet about three feet ,at the narrowest point,from the wall.
Even still, I did pay special attention in that area because snow and rain is a big concern in areas such as that.
That particular valley was fitted with 24" galvanized valley flashing,(12"on each side of the bend).
The wall in that corner was flashed and counter flashed(step flashing).The step flashing alone probably would have been enough but generally I like my projects to be the best I know they can be.

Marc,
I don't recall the plan name.My client did buy it from a book but had it modified by an architect to fit their needs.

At one time Variform ,the siding manufacturer, wanted to use it as a brochure "cover home".The home owner did not want to give permission for that so it never happened.

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In most cases, I find the vinyl siding installed directly over the OSB. Do others find this as well?






What's OSB? YES, is there another method?

Around here they just nail it onto whatever the rotten and degraded materials were initially.



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Really nice work and glad to know craftspersons are still hard at it.
Are those aliens above the garage?
FYI: 9850 Aberdeen, O.P. KS, Nallwood J.H., S.M. South, back in the mid '60s
Thank you.
Not aliens.Something on my scanner.
Not native to KS. A rural Missouri girl at heart.Although I must say when I'm finished building I'll probably move to someplace treed and hilly and build guitars for a living.I only build 4-5 a year right now.
Oh No! Thread drift....Vinyl siding,vinyl siding,vinyl siding.Wait ,I don't really like vinyl siding.The alternative for this house would have been too expensive.
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