InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Message Board > Specific Inspection Topics > Exterior

Exterior Contains discussions about the exterior portion of a home inspection. This includes roofs, gutters, downspouts, decks, patios, windows, et cetera.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10/11/08, 11:01 PM
Richard A. Maday's Avatar
Richard A. Maday Richard A. Maday is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Itasca, IL
Posts: 2,083
Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute
Default Whats with the foam?

Found this in a couple places. Exposed styrofoam lke material.

Why is it exposed?
How would you write it up?

Thanks in advance.

Pic 1 - where concrete meets siding.
Pic 2 - lower right corner of wall
Pic 3 - behind compressor
Pic 4 - pretty obvious
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC00268.jpg (79.0 KB, 75 views)
File Type: jpg DSC00283.jpg (61.4 KB, 66 views)
File Type: jpg DSC00286.jpg (53.4 KB, 61 views)
File Type: jpg DSC00295.jpg (59.8 KB, 75 views)



Owl Home Inspections
Rick Maday
Itasca, IL


Home Inspector Serving all Chicago Suburbs

Schaumburg Home Inspector
Naperville Home Inspector
Lake County Home Inspector
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10/12/08, 8:10 AM
David P. Valley's Avatar
David P. Valley David P. Valley is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: METHUEN, MA
Posts: 6,358
David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute David P. Valley has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Whats with the foam?

It looks like some sort foundation insulator.

All foam insulation must be protected with a fireproof material. If this area were to burn, the toxic gases are deadly.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10/12/08, 10:50 AM
sspradling sspradling is online now
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Columbia, MO
Posts: 224
sspradling is generally well trusted
Please Note: sspradling is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Whats with the foam?

Termite activity can go undetected behind the foam insulation. I always recommend annual or bi annual termite inspections by a licensed pest control contractor.
Stu
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10/12/08, 11:23 AM
Richard A. Maday's Avatar
Richard A. Maday Richard A. Maday is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Itasca, IL
Posts: 2,083
Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute Richard A. Maday has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Whats with the foam?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dvalley View Post
It looks like some sort foundation insulator.

All foam insulation must be protected with a fireproof material. If this area were to burn, the toxic gases are deadly.
Thanks David.

Why would they use it in such a small areas (Pic 1 & 2)?



Owl Home Inspections
Rick Maday
Itasca, IL


Home Inspector Serving all Chicago Suburbs

Schaumburg Home Inspector
Naperville Home Inspector
Lake County Home Inspector
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10/12/08, 12:03 PM
Marcel R. Cyr's Avatar
Marcel R. Cyr Marcel R. Cyr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Winslow, ME
Posts: 9,678
Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute Marcel R. Cyr has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Whats with the foam?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rmaday View Post
Thanks David.

Why would they use it in such a small areas (Pic 1 & 2)?
Hi. Rick, and if you don't mind my opinion, this is what I see.

It appears the owner of this dwelling was concerned with exposed concrete above grade with the thermal bridging it provides to the interior.

Other than the fact exposed styrofoam products at the exterior is ugly and not aesthetically pleasing, there is not much wrong with it.

The UV rays will eventually break it down and look even worse over time.

Some stryrofoam is treated for insects and termites.

In the last picture, my concern is the installation which shows a ledge is created at the bottom of the vertical siding and providing access to water infiltration at that area.
Looks like they tried to seal it but you can see the aging of the insulation and it's reduction in size which is pulling away from the sealant and letting water in.

There is one area that is freshly broken and exposing it's interior color of blue which would indicate it might be a blue board insulation by Dow Chemical.

This product, although only available in Canada, has a finished skin on it so it can remain exposed.
Showing you this one for illistration purposes only.

http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiteratu...romPage=GetDoc

Should foam insulation above grade be protected?

Foam above grade must be protected from both sun and physical damage. Ultraviolet light degrades or destroys most foams. In addition, damage from lawnmowers, balls, and other incidental
contact can degrade the appearance and performance of the foam. Common materials used to protect the foam above grade include two- or three-layer stucco finishes, brush-on elastomeric or
cementitious finishes, vertical vinyl siding, cement board, aluminum coil stock, and fiberglass panels.

http://www.nachi.org/foundationinsulation.htm

http://www.owenscorning.com/comminsu...cons_found.asp

http://www.ilevel.com/literature/179-07771.pdf


Hope this helps a little.

Marcel



Cyr Home Inspections
IAC2 Certified
NACHI04070211

http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards/inachiawards551.html
http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards


Commercial Builder
Ouellet Associaties Inc.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vinyl Siding With Foam Insulation ekartal6 Exterior 15 1/25/08 6:39 AM
Question about exposed styrofoam insulation. mlong Exterior 9 12/21/07 9:33 AM
Foam Insulation ? wrandolph General Inspection Discussion 13 11/18/07 9:30 PM
Spray Foam to the Rescue ? mcyr Structural 3 3/27/07 8:29 PM
Foam Board rcooke Canadian Inspectors 2 1/13/07 10:33 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 8:47 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Popular

Membership

Inspection Standards

Education

Chapters & Members

Articles & Links

Other Organizations

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics