What's your narrative on this one?

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

There's ice on the roof and you should consider moving to a warmer climate. . .

[David C. Macy]

Originally Posted by jpope

There's ice on the roof and you should consider moving to a warmer climate. . .

Now Jeff lets be nice!!

I love shoveling/snow blowing my drive 4X a day
I love not seeing the sun for weeks
I love inspecting in the snow!!

It is almost March, spring is getting close.

I look forward to wearing a t shirt, shorts and tennis shoes.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

I get chilly just looking at that stuff!

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by jpope

I get chilly just looking at that stuff!

You are weak.
Not of good study stock ,and just need more pizza fat.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

I'll take 120 degrees over ice any day. . .

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by jpope

I'll take 120 degrees over ice any day. . .

You get used to it .
I used to work outside all day every day and would feel hot going inside.

Chicago has the best summers because we celebrate like crazy once Spring hits.

[Ben J. Gromicko]

Originally Posted by kshepard

I don't comment on icicles. It's well beyond the scope of a home inspection.

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To all:
Total disregard of an obvious problem helps in neither limiting liability nor providing an excellent inspection service.

Several hundred pounds of ice hanging from a gutter 24 feet above the ground is not only an indication a problem with the building envelope, but it's also poses an unreasonable risk to people on the property.

In my humble opinion, that condition should be reported. Not only should the safety hazard be reported to the potential client, but also everyone present at the property and the property owner. If that gutter gives, or the ice cracks and falls, someone might get seriously injured.

My advice to everyone: Don't hide behind the SOP. It won't help.


To all:
10 Steps to Inspecting the Roof - online training video - Step #5 involves ice dams. http://www.nachi.org/roof-inspection.htm

[Jae Williams]

[quote=dmacy;626995]
I love shoveling/snow blowing my drive 4X a day.
I love not seeing the sun for weeks.
I love inspecting in the snow!![/quote]

You, sir, are a very strange person.

Very strange indeed!!!

My wife loves the snow (as she works from home with her computer in a large comfortable office).

I, on the other hand, became quite disillusioned about the second day of repeatedly removing the snow, even with a blow-snower.

[Gerry Pallotta]

I too love shoveling snow. I find it relaxing and you have alone time with your thoughts. Plus it's great exercise.

I agree there are many causes to the ice damming and that is the fun of being an inspector to determine what the actual cause is. I agree with Ben no matter the cause warn the client, those icicles can be dangerous.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by bgromicko

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My advice to everyone: Don't hide behind the SOP. It won't help.

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To all:
10 Steps to Inspecting the Roof - online training video - Step #5 involves ice dams. http://www.nachi.org/roof-inspection.htm

Wise words!!

[Matthew K. Klein]

I have noticed that the depth of the snow also is involved. We normally do not have ice cycles in this southern Ohio area during the winter. However, we had an unusual 12-incher a couple of weeks ago and I noticed a lot of homes with icicles that did not usually have them with shallower snows. The icicles occurred even though temperatures were not above freezing during the time. This seems to support melting on upper roof areas, water flowing to lower roof areas and then freezing again. I further think that water freezing in the gutters might also allow snow melt to flow over the gutter.

BTW, my first thought to Ben's question was, "It'll put your eye out."

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by mklein

I have noticed that the depth of the snow also is involved. We normally do not have ice cycles in this southern Ohio area during the winter. However, we had an unusual 12-incher a couple of weeks ago and I noticed a lot of homes with icicles that did not usually have them with shallower snows. The icicles occurred even though temperatures were not above freezing during the time. This seems to support melting on upper roof areas, water flowing to lower roof areas and then freezing again. I further think that water freezing in the gutters might also allow snow melt to flow over the gutter.

BTW, my first thought to Ben's question was, "It'll put your eye out."

The snow has insulation value.......so having more increases R-value. Could be that with windless days, a bit of solar gain plus minor heat loss through attic bypasses and air leaks.......the attic air and roof sheathing will rise to be above freezing.