What would you recommend for this downspout

[Bob Elliott]

Yes I know the 6 foot deal , so lets get past that comment.

What would you suggest that would help here.

I would not wish to create a trip hazard, and suppose they capped that drain below , because it emptied into the towns system.

I am thinking the flexible roll out type.

[mnahrgang]

Originally Posted by relliott

Yes I know the 6 foot deal , so lets get past that comment.

What would you suggest that would help here.

I would not wish to create a trip hazard, and suppose they capped that drain below , because it emptied into the towns system.

I am thinking the flexible roll out type.

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I'd recommend dumping a bucket of water down it to see what happens with the drainage. If it puddles next to the foundation, then (based on the picture) I'd recommend an elbow to shoot it away. If it drains away, then I wouldn't recommend anything.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mnahrgang

I'd recommend dumping a bucket of water down it to see what happens with the drainage. If it puddles next to the foundation, then (based on the picture) I'd recommend an elbow to shoot it away. If it drains away, then I wouldn't recommend anything.

Thanks
The sidewalk is vaulted away from the foundation.

It is common to see this situation , but just saying to direct it 6 feet away is sure easier than giving a real solution.

I hate deferring or passing the buck.

I also think of winter and freezing rain

[Jack L. Gilleland]

Is that the reason the underground drain is plugged or is it just stopped up? Ideally, cleanout that underground drain, but lacking that and given slope away I would recommend nothing. They could breakup the sidewalk and run it under, I guess their not open to sledge hammers and concrete mixers (oh well).

[jkogel]

They could cut a trough with a concrete saw, not that hard. I think they want to direct water to the left side of the walkway there, so it would need to be a shallow open drain with a grate.
The other way would be ugly, pipe the water along the wall to the back of the house.

John Kogel
www.allsafehome.ca

[James F. McKee]

Bob...in the picture it looks like the one next door is still going underground....this may just be someone didn't want to pay to clean the drain out...I'd try that first if it was mine,...jim

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by jmckee

Bob...in the picture it looks like the one next door is still going underground....this may just be someone didn't want to pay to clean the drain out...I'd try that first if it was mine,...jim

There are four of them with one right by the back door going into the pipe , but I have a feeling the town forced them to be closed.

Good suggestion to have them check with the AHJ though.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by jgilleland

Is that the reason the underground drain is plugged or is it just stopped up? Ideally, cleanout that underground drain, but lacking that and given slope away I would recommend nothing. They could breakup the sidewalk and run it under, I guess their not open to sledge hammers and concrete mixers (oh well).

Going by age of building, my guess is the underground drain is clay (ceramic) and is cracked, broke. Was there any evidence from inside basement wall of previous water damage or repair?

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by ccurrins

Going by age of building, my guess is the underground drain is clay (ceramic) and is cracked, broke. Was there any evidence from inside basement wall of previous water damage or repair?

No but many towns may not want it draining into the public system.

Looks like 1952 using the proven toilet top method

78 page report on this one (empty)

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by relliott

No but many towns may not want it draining into the public system.

Looks like 1952 using the proven toilet top method

78 page report on this one (empty)

I was assuming it had a separate drain. We have a lot of old clay drains, but most are connected to storm water drain lines, and many are cracked.

That's a lot of report, I hope you got paid double.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Bob, those look like 2'x2' concrete dry set pavers, could those be removed and go underground to a French Drain away from the building?

Just a thought when I saw those pavers.

Marcel

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Bob, those look like 2'x2' concrete dry set pavers, could those be removed and go underground to a French Drain away from the building?

Just a thought when I saw those pavers.

Marcel

Hi Marcel

Yeah but this is a foreclosure with lots of big ticket items to fix and I figure the easiest solution would be appreciated.

It is common in Chicagoland to have sidewalk against side walk.(small lots you know)

[David A. Andersen]

Its a slab, and I see no other issues.
I'd just tell them to monitor it.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by dandersen

Its a slab, and I see no other issues.
I'd just tell them to monitor it.

Wrong
Slabs are only for garages around here.

Garden unit is rental.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Bob, I looked at your picture again and notice there is another downspout in the back of the same building and also one mid stream of the walkway on the adjacent building.

Is it possible that is why they used 2'x2' walkway concrete pads with those big gaps to dissipate the water from the gutters?

They might have back filled with all stone and it is not a problem at all.

I'm speculating here, but hasn't this been like that for how long and worked?

Marcel