acceptable humidaty levels in gypsum?

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Linas you where doing so well until you started in with the smear tactics.
Everyone has there opinion Linas.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Mr Connell you sound like a very coherent man. I see Mr. Cooke has acknowledged your presents and seems to know you. I take great stock in his verbiage and yours now and will hope you come more often.
This 4th of July celebrations gives many Americans happiness and I too will wish our neighbors to the South a happy 4th of July. America's independence day and the day in which I was born.
Now this brings me to that fog you are describing so eloquently and with what seems to be a pleasurable experience that has made me curious.
I will send you my email address and my real address and a $20 bill or more if you deem it fit, for a bit of that fog. HA HA HA
You can keep the alcohol, I am 15 plus years sober. Thank be to God our Father.

Do not mind me Mr. Connell's. I am a jokester and love humor.
I too take heavy pain medications at times. It is no laughing matter.
I wish you all the best.
As for your statement of "A doctor concluded that indeed the mold caused the family to get sick.” All I can say is the doctor has gone out on a limb, but do recconnise the importance of the science and study behind mold. and the adverse affects it can have on humans.
Be good Mr. Connell's
PS: You can get my email address when you down load my vcard. HA HA HA.
American or Canadian money order. HA HA HA.

This proves that Connell lies http://www.nachi.org/forum/f21/mold-...57/index3.html . Read Post #40 carefully, he exposes who he really is. He has lied about me, NACHI, what he does for a living and the subject of mold itself. He is a fraud and has been chased off this message board because of it before.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by jbraun

This proves that Connell lies http://www.nachi.org/forum/f21/mold-...57/index3.html . Read Post #40 carefully, he exposes who he really is. He has lied about me, NACHI, what he does for a living and the subject of mold itself. He is a fraud and has been chased off this message board because of it before.

Yes I saw your post before and sorry I do not think you handled your self very well.
I and others try to have an open mind and read and learn .
I do not remember any proof coming from you when it has been asked for .

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I am not even in that thread. It was mainly Nick and Mario who uncovered Connell as a fraud. If you do not like Nick and Mario because of they way they handle themselves, I suggest you take it up to them. I saw nothing wrong with them exposing Connell for what he really is. Connell has done more harm than Nick, Mario and me combined so you just need to deal with that fact.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I tell you what Roy, I will be glade to provide any information to anybody who is open minded as Young is. I am not going to spend my time arguing with somebody if that somebody is just ignoring the facts.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbraun

I am not even in that thread. It was mainly Nick and Mario who uncovered Connell as a fraud. If you do not like Nick and Mario because of they way they handle themselves, I suggest you take it up to them. I saw nothing wrong with them exposing Connell for what he really is. Connell has done more harm than Nick, Mario and me combined so you just need to deal with that fact.

I am familiar with and posted in the referenced thread but I do not see how he was exposed as a fraud. Do you have records of court cases or otherwise where his reports/testimony was dismissed as lacking, incomplete or fraudulent??

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by jbraun

This proves that Connell lies http://www.nachi.org/forum/f21/mold-...57/index3.html . Read Post #40 carefully, he exposes who he really is. He has lied about me, NACHI, what he does for a living and the subject of mold itself. He is a fraud and has been chased off this message board because of it before.

James I am not here to make trouble . I am here to enjoy everyone's including your own views on the world of Home inspections.
No rights or wrongs. only better answers.
Evey-one is taking this issue way over the top.
We all agree that mold is harmful. Stop the association bashing and the CMI cutup. No need everyone.

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[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jbraun

I tell you what Roy, I will be glade to provide any information to anybody who is open minded as Young is. I am not going to spend my time arguing with somebody if that somebody is just ignoring the facts.

The only person ignoring the "Facts" is Mr. Braun-----

I'm sure your wisdom would be greatly appreciated in Fairy Tales, Tabloids, etc---

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by Caoimhín P. Connell

Good morning, all!

I hope everyone in the US is having a GREAT 4th of July celebration, and for those elsewhere, I hope you’re having a great weekend as well.

As for me, I have been ordered to bed for three days with a raging fever and respiratory infection. “Toxic mould…” I hear the whispers.. alas no: it’s a virus (for the benefit of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals and “Certified Mold Inspectors” viruses and moulds are actually different).

Being stuck in bed with a raging fever, expensive narcotics, and alcohol can make watching seven zombie movies back-to-back seem like a good idea. Then I decided to check my web stats, and I noticed unusual activity seeming to c9ome from some unknown link and I followed the link back to here! (Actually, it brought me to: http://www.nachi.org/forum/f18/acceptable-humidaty-levels-gypsum-61966/index3.html which was the only page I read).

But through the fog of good drugs and bad bugs, I could clearly see it; it’s a direct parallel! Dale Duffy is on Zombie Patrol!! The CMIs are all muddling aimlessly about on the street below. Dale is up on the roof and can hear them down below repeating over and over and over and over and over… “Toxic mould… toxic mould… toxic mould…” Actually, they’re U.S. zombies, so they’re saying “…Toxic mold… toxic mold… toxic mold…” Anyway, Dale is calmly atop the roof taking head shots –but the zombies keep coming…

The page I saw begins with Dale quoting somebody named “James.” Since this was the only page I read, I don’t know who James is; so, I can’t be accused <I>ad hominem</I>, but, just in case, let’s call him “Zombie 1.”

Zombie 1 has done something all zombies must do to survive: rely on unsupportable hearsay, and brainless fabrications. You know, hearsay: “My sister’s best friend’s first cousin once sat next to a man on a bus who said that his father read an article that said that a whole family in his area got sick by mold. The mother was disabled for two years, the father and the children are permanently disabled due to neurological problems. A doctor concluded that indeed the mold caused the family to get sick.” Well! Of course it must be true, Zombie, but if Dale doesn’t believe it, then he must just hate Zombies!

“Dale the Zombie Hunter” levels his weapon and takes a head-shot: He asked the Zombie to provide a citation.

“You HATE Zombies and you HATE the international Zombie Association!” Was the reply. (This is your first indication that the head-shot was on target).

Dale: 1
Zombies: 0

The Zombie complained: “You of course dismissed the letter…” Of course Dale the Zombie Hunter dismissed the letter… Dale has a brain. Head-shot.

Dale: 2
Zombies: 0

The zombies make a strategic move – they lie: “…and quoted some dripple…” ooops…before we get to the lie, the head-shot is taking effect; the zombie meant to say “drivel” but the zombie’s mouth is frothing and it made it sound like “dripple….”

Dale: 3
Zombies: 0

OK: NOW on to the lies: “… from an industrial hygienist … who admitted on this message board he makes his living off helping companies sue home inspectors who are just trying to protect their customers.” (The Zombie made this “fact” up to cover his tracks cuz he’s starting to feel the effects of the head-wound.)

Dale: 4
Zombies: 0

Zombies have no self respect and so you can’t embaress them by catching them at lies, and so the zombie continues to lie: “This industrial hygienist also admitted on this message board that he has not completed any studies in mold.” OUCH! Uh oh! The zombie toppled over, twitching as the lights go out.

Dale: 5
Zombies: 0

Then, as the advancing horde encroaches, Zombie 2 steps up to the plate. (Let’s call him Zombie 3 to protect his identity.) Zombie 3 sees that Zombie 1’s tactics didn’t work. So Zombie 3 resorts to another Zombie tactic : Reference a document you have never read, don’t have the capabilities to understand, and presume that somewhere in the document, it supports your brainless position. Ready?

Zombie 3: “Here is an EPA study, written by doctors, warning doctors to look for neurological effects from mold. http://oehc.uchc.edu/images/PDFs/MOLD%20GUIDE.pdf The information is out there, you just got to be willing to learn.”

OOooohhhhh…. Head-Shot. For a start, it’s not a EPA study (but since the zombie never read the document from which DALE is supposed to learn, the Zombie would not have known that.) So let’s see what that document REALLY says about “…warning doctors to look for neurological effects from mold…”

The document actually says: “Concerns relating to the health effects of mycotoxins as encountered in indoor environments focus on respiratory, neurological, and dermatologic effects. As discussed in appendix B, the evidence linking mycotoxins to these kinds of effects in indoor settings is inconclusive.” (Zombie document- page 40).

OOOOhhhh… If only the Zombie had read the document first before referencing it… But then, if he actually READ something scientific and understood it, he wouldn’t be a CMI… I mean a zombie.

Dale: 6
Zombies: 0

Wait, a sec… Looks like Dale is preparing for another head-shot…

“Although toxic syndromes are not well defined from inhalation exposure of mold or mold products in indoor environments, many patients and some physicians have attributed cognitive and other neurological syndromes to mold exposures. There is no consensus as to the nature, pathophysiology, or etiology of these syndromes.” (Zombie document, page 40 ) .

Ooooh! Dale quoted the Zombie document again!

Dale: 7
Zombies: 0

Ohhh… the zombie went down… You can still here the zombie saying something. I wonder what it is? Let’s listen…. “Your hatred for NACHI, CMIs and your ignorance about mold….ahhhhrrrgghhhhh….”

Dale: 8
Zombies: 0

Uh oh! Dale! Look out Dale! Zombie 1 is getting back up again… “Toxic mould… toxic mould… Toxic mould…..” So is Zombie Number 2 (or 3), whatever! RUN DALE! RUN!

That was fun… BTW, I could have used the Zombie’s reference to the World Health Organization document as well. But, why beat a dead zombie?

Cheers to all on the Glorious 4th, in this, the USA, the greatest country on Earth!

Caoimhín P. Connell
Forensic Industrial Hygienist
www.forensic-applications.com

(The opinions expressed here are exclusively my personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect my professional opinion, opinion of my employer, agency, peers, or professional affiliates. The above post is for information only and does not reflect professional advice and is not intended to supercede the professional advice of others.)

AMDG

Great to hear from you Caoimhin.......!

Glad to hear Toxic Mold wasn't the culprit----

Be well my Friend...!!!!

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Brian thank you for your input. Honestly. I know you devoted a great deal of effort into your findings.
I will say this. I take his word ( Connell ) with a grain of salt because of 2 statements he made. One that his family is hospitalized and using heavy pain medication ( the fog ) and second that the doctor told him it was toxic mold.
From all the reading I have done on mold and that amounts to a thimbles worth as compared to many here, it is still an unanswered science.
Case closed.
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[Eric C. Van De Ven]

Originally Posted by ldapkus1

Butt banging gay bag boys that are instant CMI's.

Hopefully, the local supermarkets and playgrounds are on alert for types like you, chicken hawks.
At least you admit it, which is the first step. Now you can seek help.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Eric Linas is not like that.
I find that the thread has taken a turn for the worse as threads have done before. When InterNACHI senior members dig in to show their testosterone sometimes there emotions get the best of them.
As I explained before.
There is no good or bad subjects on mold. Just better teachers.

[Eric C. Van De Ven]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Eric Linas is not like that.
I find that the thread has taken a turn for the worse as threads have done before. When InterNACHI senior members dig in to show their testosterone sometimes there emotions get the best of them.
As I explained before.
There is no good or bad subjects on mold. Just better teachers.

Robert, I would suggest you stay out of this with regards to Linus and myself.
It is not your concern.
He has questioned my credibility on several posts and I am not going to tolerate it any longer.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Up to you sir.
I have seen Linas instill a much greater control of his appitite of negativity and the use of his monkey.
Just brush it off if you can.
Be positive.
Good luck. Point taken.

[Linas Dapkus]

Thanks for your kind words Robert. As you know it doesn't take much to become a CMI. Just sign some papers and send in the $$$. Some folks don't even have to do that much to be considered an "authority. It's a shame when a parts changer/mechanic/Winn Dixie bagboy/ terminated wannabe home inspector becomes an instant CMI. However, others with less credentials have purchased this designation. We have a floor cleaning jockey/janitor in Illinois that is a CMI, unbelieveable...................
Then we have the CMI/toxic mold expert from Missouri.