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Old 1/24/07, 12:39 AM
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Fire Grenades...........



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Please note these usually contain Carbon tetrachloride
It is extremely dangerous and deadly .
We used to use this to clean copper and had three electricians
die from it in a man hole in a very short period of time .


http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/CA/ca...achloride.html http://www.dhfs.state.wi.us/eh/ChemFS/fs/carbontet.htm

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Old 1/24/07, 6:34 AM
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http://www.thegavel.net/grenade.html



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Remember those when I was a kid, they were visible in my Fathers garage, thank God we never had to use them.

Wonder where all the safety warnings were back then on this product?

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Remember those when I was a kid, they were visible in my Fathers garage, thank God we never had to use them.

Wonder where all the safety warnings were back then on this product?

Marcel
I think they worked great on a fire only they now gave of an different gas not even more toxic the Carbon Tet.
I used to use it a lot and they also used it in commercial degrease rs a warm tank turned it into a vapor and it had cold pipes around the top to keep to the gas in the tank .
Worked great removed all traces of grease and dirt like wow .
It was also used in dry cleaning a wonder product that even went through the skin .
Gee I wonder is that what is wrong with Meeeeeeeeeee??????

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The worst part about carbon tetrachloride as a fire extinguishant is that it produces phosgene gas when heated. That is what the Germans used in WWI against allied troops.
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So would this then be considered a hazardous materials situation, would you inform the local fire department immediately?



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The worst part about carbon tetrachloride as a fire extinguishant is that it produces phosgene gas when heated. That is what the Germans used in WWI against allied troops.
AKA Mustard Gas

HCFC Refrigerant's like R-22 are also known to produce Phosgenes Gas when exposed to a heat source. It really burns the hell out of your lungs




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Another recent example.....



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Joe;

Hard to believe they are still around.
How old was that building?

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I used to work at a shop that used it to clean out contaminated auto A/C systems, it did a great job. They had a pharmacist who got it for them after it was banned.
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Joe;

Hard to believe they are still around.
How old was that building?

Marcel
haven't seen one of these since I was youngster.....about 45 years ago.
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Home was a circa 1920 (Disclosed Age).

It is pretty common to find these within the older homes of this area.



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haven't seen one of these since I was youngster.....about 45 years ago.
Brian, now that is old.

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Old 10/27/07, 10:08 PM
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And another from yesterdays inspection.... Original portion of the home over 150 years.....



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