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Old 6/21/07, 4:55 PM
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Default Fireplace with unusual feature

How about this one? How many things wrong should I write up? Any help appreciated.

There is a propane tank located outside with plumbing traveling up the wall, across the roof, up the chimney, down into the chimney and with a valve inside the fireplace...can you say "hot to hold"?


Thanks for all help in advance.

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Old 6/21/07, 5:17 PM
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This is how the gas logs are fed? or does the propane go to something unrelated to the fireplace?
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Old 6/21/07, 5:24 PM
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This is how the gas logs are fed? or does the propane go to something unrelated to the fireplace?
This is for the gas log appliance.
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Old 6/21/07, 5:49 PM
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I have seen everything, unbelieveable.

Time bomb with no direct timer. These people nuts or what.

Throw the book at them, if you know what I mean.
Book-em Dano.

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How many things wrong should I write up?
four.
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Old 6/21/07, 6:35 PM
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four.
OK - this will be fun.

1. improper valve location
2. improper location of plumbing
3. no pilot safety
4. ???

I'm not proud. What's the fourth? Or do I have the right four?

Oh btw, the damper was only blocked open the dimension of the copper tubing.
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Old 6/21/07, 6:49 PM
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Not (pic too small) sure but I think I see.

4. soldered fittings used on gas line.
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Old 6/21/07, 7:43 PM
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Not (pic too small) sure but I think I see.

4. soldered fittings used on gas line.
Actually it's pipe dope. #4 is still open. Anyone?
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4. ???
hint: look at the chimney itself. (keeping in mind the routing of the gas line has already been mentioned)
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Old 6/21/07, 7:54 PM
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hint: look at the chimney itself. (keeping in mind the routing of the gas line has already been mentioned)
My apologies. I thought there were just four with the fireplace picture. I had already written up the following on the chimney:
1. Improper spark arrestor material (galvanized chicken wire)
2. Improper spark arrestor size (not 4 times the area of flue)
3. No rain cap

Anymore for just the chimney?? I'm sure I missed something.

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Old 6/21/07, 7:58 PM
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Y'all probably wanna see the spark arrestor. Guaranteed to keep chickens in. Them chicks cain't get outen yur livin' room.

My apologies to Jeff Foxworthy.

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Bruce,

I am refering to the 45 el and 90 el on the 1/2" copper line at the chimney which appear to be soldered instead of brazed.

Looks even more like soldered fittings in the new pic.

Love the spark arrestor.

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Old 6/21/07, 8:23 PM
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Bruce,

I am refering to the 45 el and 90 el on the 1/2" copper line at the chimney which appear to be soldered instead of brazed.

Looks even more like soldered fittings in the new pic.

Love the spark arrestor.
I stand corrected. You are correct.

Just like when my wife and I are talking. She is saying one thing; I'm hearing another.

You were looking at one picture; I was looking at the other.

Dang it. I hate it when she's right. But take comfort in the fact that she cannot be right 100% of the time. And I tell her so on a quarterly basis.
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Gas Fired Log Set (LP)
- Defective installation of a gas fired appliance is noted. Recommend fireplace repair with replacements made as needed.
- Recommend Level 2 Inspection of the Chimney / Fireplace by a CSIA Certified Chimney Contractor prior to closing.






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Old 6/21/07, 8:32 PM
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NFPA does not allow gas piping in chimneys.

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