First time seeing EIFS ... need advice

[David Nasser]

Nice looking house built in 2005.
Noticed EIFS on the column...Rest of stucco appeared to
be based cement based.

I understand that the exposed pieced of EIFS needs to be
professionally repaired.

But what is the general verbiage disclosure...that protects me
down the line ...
Excuse me....Its supposed to be in the Exterior section.

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.tv/stucco/stucco-ei...tification.htm if you have time. Hi-def video, free, online.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

David,
There should be a slope on the EIFS on the top of the brick veneer. There is also no weeps on the brick veener.

Just note what you see, and recommend an inspection by a certified stucco inspector.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

What type of EFIS.
There are several.
Some are built to weep moisture. They have related problems.
To much information. Go to Nicks link.

Ripped, punctured or torn EFIS membrane. Exposed insulation.
Increased likelihood of weather driven and water infiltration.

Recommend a licensed EFIS repair person or company.

[clambert2]

That is not EIFS that is stucco covered foam planton trim. Very very common

[Gary D. Rowden]

Hi David
I see this type of damage all the time, it’s quite common. The biggest concern would be water intrusion that may not be noticed until it’s too late.

EIFS, also known as "Synthetic Stucco" is damaged at **** and repair is needed to prevent possible water intrusion. Repair to synthetic stucco should be performed by a qualified licensed contractor well-versed in the use, maintenance, and application of EIFS.


There are three layers to EIFS
Inner Layer Foam insulation board that's secured to the exterior wall surface, often with adhesive.
Middle Layer A polymer and cement base coat that's applied to the top of the insulation, then reinforced with glass fiber mesh.
Exterior Layer A textured finish coat.

[clambert2]

Again that is NOT EIFS that is damaged stucco covered foam trim. Plain and simple.

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by clambert2

That is not EIFS that is stucco covered foam planton trim. Very very common

Originally Posted by clambert2

Again that is NOT EIFS that is damaged stucco covered foam trim. Plain and simple.

please provide descriptive or prescriptive installation instructions for "stucco covered planton trim" or "stucco covered foam trim"

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

First find out the EFIS system that is installed.

EFIS is considered; thin synthetic coatings
Several systems.
1.) EIFS with drainage
2.) Water management.
3.) water-resistive barrier
Look at flashing, a drainage cavity, etc.
EIFS systems have been the subject of several lawsuits.

I make note of class action suites in my report when I can.

It is gaining in popularity in Montreal.
Climate and energy saving.
Nick's link and InterNACHI education on the subject are geart. I have done it twice.
Good luck!!

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Water and RH may be entering the masonry system.
The brick veneer faces are covered with effervescence. Mineral salts.

In my opinion the brick top course was not sealed with a concrete cap, or the capping is EFIS and failed.

Gravity will carry the RH throughout that rectangular sand or concrete brick element.
The staining is from trapped moisture inside the masonry.

It is hard to tell if that cap is concrete or part of the EFIS system.
1.) If the is concrete with no capillary break it will effect the brick.
2.) Those are raker style pointing or masonry tuck.
It is banned in Quebec sense 1982.
It exposes the bricks( lead face ) edge.
Most masonry or concrete brick's lead face, the 1/16 of an inch that is used for the esthetic is the water shield.
A brick face to exposed will absorb water.
That is why there are so many styles of pointing or tuck.

I would recommend having that pillar repointed
I would recommend a capillary break cut in the concrete if it is concrete.
If not, a flashing at the last course bedding can be cut in. Like step flashing on a masonry chimney.
You can have the staining removed by a professional.

[clambert2]

David,

Go ahead and defer to an EIFS specialist as all these gentlemen from out of state and Canada are telling you to.

Very few if ANY builders in California use EIFS there is some in Irvine and some in Carlsbad. I see what is in the picture very often. It is a decrotive foam trim that is attached to the top of the veneer and covered with stucco color coat. It is the same as the decrotive trim around the windows on most newer homes here in California.

But hey I only live and work in California so these guys from Texas and Canada can guide you.

Refer to the EIFS specialist but be ready to get your checkbook out and give a refund or pay for the specialist when it come back to foam trim

Damaged trim, trim atop the veneer is damaged. Repairs required to stop any possible moisture intrusion into concealed spaces

[clambert2]

Originally Posted by badair

please provide descriptive or prescriptive installation instructions for "stucco covered planton trim" or "stucco covered foam trim"

Google it

[David Nasser]

Originally Posted by clambert2

Again that is NOT EIFS that is damaged stucco covered foam trim. Plain and simple.

Who would I recommend for repairs?

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by clambert2

Google it

I think I'll take the advice of that "guy from Texas" over your's, anyday.

Chuck's Website

[clambert2]

Originally Posted by jjonas

I think I'll take the advice of that "guy from Texas" over your's, anyday.

Chuck's Website

Jeff,

Yes, that is my software web site. As I not only do inspections full time and have been for many years but I also produce software form sets for one of the largest and best inspection software companies there is.

Funny how you think all knowledge revolves around a web site. So you are willing to let David get a possible black eye and make an incorrect referral because you looked at the site I have listed here and it refers to software?

I thought this forum was here to help others? Also funny how people around here go and kick their teddy bears when people point out they are wrong in the calls they made.

To all the others sorry for the Linas rant.