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Old 12/14/11, 6:41 PM
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Ok so what is your point! That is exactly what I am saying. When I want to escape a garage I will pull on the handle firmly and if the unit does not go up it is not balanced correctly. It should stay at any point that you leave it according to Garaga door Installation. the ones I find stay at about 3 feet and then drop slowly.
I would imagine if you are directly under the release when pulling it would not move at all for some doors but that is not the point of the quick release or am I wrong.
Please give me some documentation that this is wrong and I will accept it.



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Old 12/14/11, 9:55 PM
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[COLOR=blue]I did not make a mistake on what I read here.
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Ok so what is your point! That is exactly what I am saying. When I want to escape a garage I will pull on the handle firmly and if the unit does not go up it is not balanced correctly. It should stay at any point that you leave it according to Garaga door Installation. the ones I find stay at about 3 feet and then drop slowly.
I would imagine if you are directly under the release when pulling it would not move at all for some doors but that is not the point of the quick release or am I wrong.
Please give me some documentation that this is wrong and I will accept it.
Baloney.



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Please give me some documentation that this is wrong and I will accept it.



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Old 12/15/11, 10:27 AM
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Please give me some documentation that this is wrong and I will accept it.
I already did if you would bother to read it.

And you have not provided anything supporting your case beyond your opinion.



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I have that info on PDF.
I still pull the quick release and it opens the door not lift the door after.
Since many of my inspections have an access door I only do this with no door to exit the garage outside.



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I have that info on PDF.
I still pull the quick release and it opens the door not lift the door after.
Since many of my inspections have an access door I only do this with no door to exit the garage outside.
Post it or the link.

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www.garaga.com



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You can do better than that. I found nothing with a quick look

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How do I know if the door is well balanced?

You should be able to easily lift the door open with one hand, regardless of its size or the material it is made of. If you notice the door is harder to open, this means that its dead weight is heavier than in the ideal range of 8 to 14 lbs. (4 to 7 kg) because the springs are no longer counterbalancing the door properly. Call a GARAGA-certified installer to correct the situation.



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Correct only mine says no more than 10 LBS.
I would suspect that the installers make sure that it is a little bit less knowing it will weaken in time.



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Correct only mine says no more than 10 LBS.
I would suspect that the installers make sure that it is a little bit less knowing it will weaken in time.
Again, that does not square with what you posted.

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Most garage doors work on a spring loaded bar. So when you pull the release it should go up about three feet. The motor only helps it go all the way to the bottom or completely open no matter where it is located on the door assembly.
No more from me.

There is not point.

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Old 12/15/11, 11:39 AM
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So how many useless posts did you put on your count.



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It was on a new home under construction. (draw inspection) It is really quiet. You can barely hear it.
That looks like a fairly expensive home...and they put the toilet outside????



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Michael,
This is what Keven was directing you to from one manufacture.

http://www.garaga.com/information/faq/
How do I know if the door is well balanced?
You should be able to easily lift the door open with one hand, regardless of its size or the material it is made of. If you notice the door is harder to open, this means that its dead weight is heavier than in the ideal range of 8 to 14 lbs. (4 to 7 kg) because the springs are no longer counterbalancing the door properly. Call a GARAGA-certified installer to correct the situation.

Keven,
After reading through the postings there is a common recurring theme that surfaces. Lack of knowledge.
Respectfully, you and many others need to obtain a serious understanding of garage door function and operations.

The garage door is one of the most potentially dangerous items in a home. Obtaining serious training and understanding in garage doors is not an easy task.

Keven,
Your understanding on the Quick Release function is flawed. It is just as the name states, a quick release. Something that can be achieved quickly. Nothing more or less. It releases/disengages the power opener.

I would caution you not to attemp any alteration of the torsion spring. Or even mention the number of rotations for adjustment. If you do not know what you are doing it can kill you. You also seem not to know that doors use extension springs as well as torsion springs. Their operation and function are critical to the correct function of the door. Both have safety devices as part of their installation which are critical.

The balancing of the of the door horizontally as well as the counter balancing of the door weight vertically does require experience to recognize correct adjustments.

The counter balancing of the door weight has a variance across the different manufactures. It is possible to adjust the door so that less than a 2 year old child could raise it.

The neutral balance point, point where the door is static, can be adjusted. Though 3 feet is a common point.

Not jerking your chain, on this topic. It is that so many have so much misinformation regarding garage doors. For something seeming so innocuous there is so much that can be learned. Being able to recite several manufactures installations specification and their installation instructions is only the beginning. There is a lot of physics going on in a garage door operation.
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