Gas Fireplace In All Electric Building

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Was doing a LARGE 6th Floor Condo in a 10 Story building. been in the Building before and all appliances, fixtures, heat, etc is Electric. Got to the sitting room and discovered a Gas Starter in the Fireplace.

I'm always so glad to be in KC where resourceful minds can think up a solution to problems / Like I want a Gas Fireplace Up Here / How Can I Get it??

[Buck Hartley, CMI]

What did you say? I bet all the whole building is like that!!!! Call Fire Marshal Bill.

[Larry D. Kage]

Are different languages needed in KC? No, no, I got it! Larger letters are needed!

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by lkage

Are different languages needed in KC? No, no, I got it! Larger letters are needed!

The BOLD needs to be Bolder, and the RED needs to be RED-er-er!!!

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

And how was this "fireplace" vented?

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by jpope

And how was this "fireplace" vented?

Excellant question. If "Vent-Free", these units are Banned in Minnesota, as well as many other states. I'm actually surprised they are still in production.


http://www.epinions.com/content_3647578244

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Excellant question. If "Vent-Free", these units are Banned in Minnesota, as well as many other states. I'm actually surprised they are still in production.


http://www.epinions.com/content_3647578244

Why?

Has anyone been hurt?

OK in Wisconsin

http://www.ventlessfireplace.net/ven...eplace-safety/

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Why?

Has anyone been hurt?

OK in Wisconsin

http://www.ventlessfireplace.net/ven...eplace-safety/

Yes.

You sure about Wisconsin? When was the last time you checked? Scroll down the page to "Legality": http://www.ehow.com/list_7180720_pro...fireplace.html

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Yes.

You sure about Wisconsin? When was the last time you checked? Scroll down the page to "Legality": http://www.ehow.com/list_7180720_pro...fireplace.html

Show me the evidence of injury please.

Minnesota may be one of the very few states that disallow them Jeff but this map does not support even that.



http://www.masterdist.net/codeschart...ightforme.html

NATIONAL BUILDING/MODEL CODES

The following six model building codes permit the installation of listed vent-free products:

• National Fire Protection Association (NFPA)
• Building Officials and Code Administrators (BOCA)
• Southern Building Code Congress International (SBCCI)
• Council of American Building Officials (CABO)
• International Mechanical Code (IMC)
• International Fuel Gas Code

Only the International Conference of Building Officials-Uniform Mechanical Code (ICBO-UMC) does not permit the product

[Michael Larson]

Another source of info.

Apparently MN does allow them in communities of less than 2,500 population. Go figure.

And WI in is wide open for homes before 1980. Go figure again.

http://www.ventless-gas-fireplaces.c...formation.html

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Another source of info.

Apparently MN does allow them in communities of less than 2,500 population. Go figure.

And WI in is wide open for homes before 1980. Go figure again.

http://www.ventless-gas-fireplaces.c...formation.html

Wrong... your source...

Minnesota: The state uses the IECC but disallows VF in cities over 2,500 populations

Am looking for verification of injuries. Will post when located.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Wrong... your source...

Those are equivalent statements Jeff.

They are allowed in cities of less than 2,500 in MN

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Oops, you're right. My mind threw in a "not" by mistake. Sorry.

Now Wisconsin... Allowed in homes built prior to 1980... aka... Banned in 1980.

Wisconsin... V-F products allowed in homes built prior to 1980

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Oops, you're right. My mind threw in a "not" by mistake. Sorry.

Now Wisconsin... Allowed in homes built prior to 1980... aka... Banned in 1980.

I'm reading that as you can install one in a home built prior to 1980.

They still sell them over here.

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by mlarson

I'm reading that as you can install one in a home built prior to 1980.

They still sell them over here.

Yes. I assume that is due to the timeframe of when modern housewrap became popular (at least in my area). Newer houses don't breath like pre-80's homes do... aka... drafty!