Gas Fireplace In All Electric Building

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jjonas

Yes. I assume that is due to the timeframe of when modern housewrap became popular (at least in my area). Newer houses don't breath like pre-80's homes do... aka... drafty!

I had similar thoughts about air tightness beginning to be employed about that time frame.

I still don't see a problem with them even in tight construction if used according to the manufacturers instructions.

When I come across them I simply make it clear that the mfgs. instructions must be followed for safe operation.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Vent ??????????????

[Pete Campbell]

H-S! I don't even store my spare full cylinders in the garage of my Fort Pierce, FL home. They and the cans of gas stay in a stand-alone shed far in the back yard with anything else flammable.

The vent-free fp may or may not be allowed, but the portable fuel source inside any habitable structure gives nightmares to firemen everywhere. Can you imagine getting in the elevator with that homeowner lugging a 20 lb cylinder?!

If that was in my area I would certainly want to exhaust all avenues to determine who installed that set up if it was contracted out by the homeowner.

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Wouldn't that tank be nice for a firefighter . Fighting a fire.
Cant fix stupid. as far as Vent free Logs great idea if you want to follow instructions but again how many have that at their finger tips on a used home. Oh yeah just disclaim and sleep easy at night .

[Wayne B. Wilson]

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[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by pcampbell

H-S! I don't even store my spare full cylinders in the garage of my Fort Pierce, FL home. They and the cans of gas stay in a stand-alone shed far in the back yard with anything else flammable.

The vent-free fp may or may not be allowed, but the portable fuel source inside any habitable structure gives nightmares to firemen everywhere. Can you imagine getting in the elevator with that homeowner lugging a 20 lb cylinder?!

If that was in my area I would certainly want to exhaust all avenues to determine who installed that set up if it was contracted out by the homeowner.

That was my observation.
Vent or unventilated would obviously be a concern.
The 20 LB of flammable liquid pressurized gas is my concern.
If there is a building fire you have all these tiny bombs going off.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Many ventless appliances have an O2 depletion valve BUT how does the HI test that and suck the oxygen out of a room to insure it works?

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

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See if your state of city, town code allow unventilated fireplaces andindoor storage of 20 lb propane.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by dbowers

Many ventless appliances have an O2 depletion valve BUT how does the HI test that and suck the oxygen out of a room to insure it works?

You don't test it any more than you test a heat detector or fuse.

It is a very stable and simple design.

If there is not sufficient O2 in the room the pilot flame does not burn hot enough to keep the gas valve open.


And I believe all ventless devices meant for indoor use have an O2 depletion sensor.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

And I believeall vent-less devices meant for indoor use have an O2 depletion sensor.
If the sensor fails Michel?
Would it be better to double check? Takes a minute.
People tamper with almost everything. Then degrading, broken, ineffective parts.
People tamper with anything. No double taps. Why open Panel?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

And I believeall vent-less devices meant for indoor use have an O2 depletion sensor.
If the sensor fails Michel?
Would it be better to double check? Takes a minute.
People tamper with almost everything. Then degrading, broken, ineffective parts.
People tamper with anything. No double taps. Why open Panel?

And how do you propose checking it?

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by mlarson

And how do you propose checking it?

Not check the device but test for CO.
Post #23

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Not check the device but test for CO.
Post #23

Which tells you absolutely nothing about how the O2 depletion sensor is functioning.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

True Michrl. It detects CO . The HI is a time stamp only. No warrenty or guarentee.I want to test for gas. Presance of Co.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Like I said / Not feasible test for HI.

Local fire dept warns against using these to start / If used surround with CO monitors checked regularly.

One other thing HOW about the ventless FP in the master bedroom suite or bath?