New buildings (insulation) Everyone getting Ripped-Off

[Dale Duffy]

[quote=dharris]

Last yr I figured it out on 200 random homes from all builders, 80% did not have the R30, 90% that upgraded to R38 had R 30 or less

It's no only the builder, I've seen many times where the installers would sell the customer, where he was adding insulation , insulation for their garage for $50.or the customer would slip them a $20 to put more in than required in attic.
After that job he only had that much left on his truck for the next new home he was doing.

Dan.

You know as well as I do regarding stucco also, not just insulation...I cannot remember the last time I found 3/8th of stucco on a house either after destructive testing was needed to make confirmations...that is also becoming a rare commodity...and there are a lot of builder upset with my findings (and yours to from what I hear through the grape vine)..............and I love it....!!!

At least we can sleep good at night knowing that many builders in AZ hate our names....

And those poor unsuspecting clients who got stuck with these "Scrap Shacks" simply love us.....!......

Sure puts the true meaning of Referral Work into perspective......

[dharris]

At least we can sleep good at night knowing that many builders in AZ hate our names....

And those poor unsuspecting clients who got stuck with these "Scrap Shacks" simply love us.....!......

Sure puts the true meaning of Referral Work into perspective......

Shhhh.
Gotta be careful how much info we give out.
Others may figure it out how that works and get some of our work.

Of course we could always sell and provide certificiations for the same info for $4-500

Unfortunately I found out Stucco's another story when the state only enforces if there is lath exposed.
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[Mark A. Timpani, CMI]

Good catch Dale. I went up in one last year, just about ready to close and found zero insulation. The clients mouth dropped to say the least.

[bjones1]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Gee we did a four year old Home and it had sold three times .
The last people where the first to get a home Inspection .
I was able to figure why every one kept selling they must of had a high heat bill as there was Zero insulation in the home .
I guess the building inspector was on vacation at that time .
...Cookie

Roy...... I have drywalled hundreds of houses, I have insulated countless houses. Every one of these was inspected and any deficiencies were fixed and re-inspected before drywall was allowed to be installed.
I'm not saying all building inspectors do their jobs properly; a lot of jobs pass through the cracks; some people build without permits. All i am saying is that thorough inspections have been my experience for the past 26 years.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bjones1

Roy...... I have drywalled hundreds of houses, I have insulated countless houses. Every one of these was inspected and any deficiencies were fixed and re-inspected before drywall was allowed to be installed.
I'm not saying all building inspectors do their jobs properly; a lot of jobs pass through the cracks; some people build without permits. All i am saying is that thorough inspections have been my experience for the past 26 years.

Did A home today 16 years old almost perfect.
Blown in cellulose 8 to 11 inches 16 years settling.
Gasketed attic door with 8 inches of foam.
Shingles at end of life .
100 amp service bonded to 1/2 inch copper.
Expect this sub division could all be the same many many homes.
Went to look for Jumper on Meter No jumper but that would not have made any difference as the incoming line was plastic.
So for 16 years this home had no ground except via the Neutral.
Home has sold 4 times ,Do not know if it had a home inspection .
But some one slipped 16 years ago.

...Cookie

[bjones1]

Roy........... with the way the ESA is all over electricians and new construction, I think what you found might be hard to find in todays workmanship. I'm not saying it's impossible, just might be hard.
enjoy the rest of the night Roy

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bjones1

Roy........... with the way the ESA is all over electricians and new construction, I think what you found might be hard to find in todays workmanship. I'm not saying it's impossible, just might be hard.
enjoy the rest of the night Roy

I think you are mistaken in many cases esa does not come and inspect electricians any more .
They are allowing them to do their own inspection.

...Cookie

[bjones1]

Originally Posted by rcooke

I think you are mistaken in many cases esa does not come and inspect electricians any more .
They are allowing them to do their own inspection.

...Cookie

Roy........ As I'm sure you're aware, I'm building a house up the road from you, up here in Coe Hill. When the electrician was done his rough-in, before Hydro One would hook up the service, ESA had to come and inspect the sparkies work.
The ESA inspector was here Thursday to inform me that since the electrician has signed off on our house, I have to transfer the permit to my name in order to finish the job.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bjones1

Roy........ As I'm sure you're aware, I'm building a house up the road from you, up here in Coe Hill.
When the electrician was done his rough-in, before Hydro One would hook up the service, ESA had to come and inspect the sparkies work.
The ESA inspector was here Thursday to inform me that since the electrician has signed off on our house, I have to transfer the permit to my name in order to finish the job.

That is normal they want your name.
Did you know you are not allowed to have any one help you to do work in your home unless they have a liciense.
I would expect for them to be concerned about his work he might be a newer contractor.
Did An inspection in your area a couple of weeks ago Bancroft only 20 miles.
Cookie

[bjones1]

Originally Posted by rcooke

That is normal they want your name.
Did you know you are not allowed to have any one help you to do work in your home unless they have a liciense.
I would expect for them to be concerned about his work he might be a newer contractor.
Did An inspection in your area a couple of weeks ago Bancroft only 20 miles.
Cookie

Roy.........The sparky was a master. His work passed with flying colors.
As of Jan 01, 2007 only a master electrician or the homeowner can take out an electrical permit.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by rcooke

I think you are mistaken in many cases esa does not come and inspect electricians any more .
They are allowing them to do their own inspection.

...Cookie

Cookie. Following your comments on this topic, I'm confused.
I thought you only looked at the positive side of everthing in life.