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Hey Guys,
Nice QOD for this area......enjoy ! Q # 1 = What of the following is NOT a or part of the requirement for the door between garages and houses? A) 1 3/8 In. Thick B) Solid Wood C) 1- HR Rating D.) Self Closing Notice - Based on the 2003 IRC & 1997 UBC( to keep the answers uniformed ) I am fully clear different areas may have different thoughts...lets stick to the 2003 IRC and 1997 UBC right now. One is obvious......do YOU know which it is.....Feel free to POST ! Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE NECŪ Consultant/Columnist www.twitter.com/ElectricalGuru - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Inspector - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Plans Examiner - Look for my article in the Nov/Dec 2009 IAEI Magazine - 2007 "Top Gun" Winner - Mike Holt Enterprises " visit www.TheElectricalGuru.com Today !" Last edited by pabernathy; 12/16/06 at 4:18 PM.. |
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Ok....Heck I might get it wrong myself...someone answer the freakin thing...lol
Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE NECŪ Consultant/Columnist www.twitter.com/ElectricalGuru - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Inspector - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Plans Examiner - Look for my article in the Nov/Dec 2009 IAEI Magazine - 2007 "Top Gun" Winner - Mike Holt Enterprises " visit www.TheElectricalGuru.com Today !" |
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Ok....no replies......
1997 UBC - A self-closing, tight fitting solid-wood door 1 3/8" thick or a self-closing, tight-fitting door having a fire-protection rating of not less than 20 minutes, will be permitted in lieu of a one-hour fire door assemble. Doors shall be provided with gasket so installed as toprovide a seal where the door meets the stop on both sides and across the top.Fire dampers are not required in air ducts provided ducts within garage are 2003 IRC - Opening Protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openins between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid doors not les than 1 3/8" inches in thickness, solid or honey comb steel doors not les than 1 3/8" inches tich, or 20- minute fire rated doors. Ok....confession........that is why I posted both references....so in the question...NOW which one would apply as the obvious one that is a bit OFF if you combined the BOTH references. Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE NECŪ Consultant/Columnist www.twitter.com/ElectricalGuru - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Inspector - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Plans Examiner - Look for my article in the Nov/Dec 2009 IAEI Magazine - 2007 "Top Gun" Winner - Mike Holt Enterprises " visit www.TheElectricalGuru.com Today !" |
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1 hour fire rated door
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IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ℠ Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Please Note:
bandag is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
The 1 hr. fire rated was off, 20 minute min. on both, no self closing required in IRC 309.1
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Did any think of the fact that a 1 hour rated door needs a frame that is rated for 45 minutes and I doubt that a wood frame would meet that. So I guess we are back to a 20 minute rating at best. As far as I know, there is no rating on wood frames. Correct me if I am wrong.!
Marcel Cyr Home and Commercial Property Inspections IAC2 Certified NACHI04070211 http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards Commercial Builder CertainTeed Master Shingle Applicator Shingle Technology Ouellet Associaties Inc. http://www.oaconstruction.com/ |
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____________________________________________ "An Education, not just an Inspection" Larry Kage Lake Ann (Traverse City), Michigan 49650 231 929 3525 Professional Inspector and Infrared Thermographer serving the Traverse City, Michigan area and beyond. ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED BUILDING SCIENCES THERMOGRAPHER ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED LEVEL 1 THERMOGRAPHER
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1997 UBC - A self-closing, tight fitting solid-wood door 1 3/8" thick or a self-closing, tight-fitting door having a fire-protection rating of not less than 20 minutes, will be permitted in lieu of a one-hour fire door assemble. Doors shall be provided with gasket so installed as toprovide a seal where the door meets the stop on both sides and across the top.Fire dampers are not required in air ducts provided ducts within garage are
Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE NECŪ Consultant/Columnist www.twitter.com/ElectricalGuru - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Inspector - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Plans Examiner - Look for my article in the Nov/Dec 2009 IAEI Magazine - 2007 "Top Gun" Winner - Mike Holt Enterprises " visit www.TheElectricalGuru.com Today !" |
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Thanks Larry; I didn't realize they had wood frames fire rated. Marcel Cyr Home and Commercial Property Inspections IAC2 Certified NACHI04070211 http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards Commercial Builder CertainTeed Master Shingle Applicator Shingle Technology Ouellet Associaties Inc. http://www.oaconstruction.com/ |
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____________________________________________ "An Education, not just an Inspection" Larry Kage Lake Ann (Traverse City), Michigan 49650 231 929 3525 Professional Inspector and Infrared Thermographer serving the Traverse City, Michigan area and beyond. ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED BUILDING SCIENCES THERMOGRAPHER ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED LEVEL 1 THERMOGRAPHER
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not to drift but does anyone know what the rating for a pull down stair unit is?
Bungalows to Mansions Professional Inspection Services, LLC dba 1st Inspection Services Bruce M. Graham III Gainesville, FL 32608 352 871 8989 NACHI05091592 ICC 5268478 www.1stinspectionsfl.com www.bungalowstomansions.com |
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Bruce,
I am sure I will be flamed for it...but I will give you what I know in MY mind to be true.. 1.) If the space over the garage is not seperated from the rest of the house it will require a 1 hr rating. You can get ceiling pull downs in a 1 hr fire rating as that would need it IF the ceiling above is open into the other part of the dwelling. 2.) If you have a fire rated seperation between the normal dwelling part and the garage space then I would be suspect most will install a normal pull down door....however on the ones we install we cover them with 5/8" drywall. Others may have more information for you...... Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE NECŪ Consultant/Columnist www.twitter.com/ElectricalGuru - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Inspector - ICC & IAEI Certified Electrical Plans Examiner - Look for my article in the Nov/Dec 2009 IAEI Magazine - 2007 "Top Gun" Winner - Mike Holt Enterprises " visit www.TheElectricalGuru.com Today !" |
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