QOD- Give this one a TRY...

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Hey Guys,

Nice QOD for this area......enjoy !

Q # 1 = What of the following is NOT a or part of the requirement for the door between garages and houses?

A) 1 3/8 In. Thick
B) Solid Wood
C) 1- HR Rating
D.) Self Closing

Notice - Based on the 2003 IRC & 1997 UBC( to keep the answers uniformed ) I am fully clear different areas may have different thoughts...lets stick to the 2003 IRC and 1997 UBC right now.

One is obvious......do YOU know which it is.....Feel free to POST !

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Ok....Heck I might get it wrong myself...someone answer the freakin thing...lol

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Ok....no replies......

1997 UBC -

A self-closing, tight fitting solid-wood door 1

3/8" thick or a self-closing, tight-fitting door having a fire-protection rating of not less than 20 minutes, will be permitted in lieu of a one-hour fire door assemble. Doors shall be provided with gasket so installed as toprovide a seal where the door meets the stop on both sides and across the top.Fire dampers are not required in air ducts provided ducts within garage are

2003 IRC -
Opening Protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openins between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid doors not les than 1 3/8" inches in thickness, solid or honey comb steel doors not les than 1 3/8" inches tich, or 20- minute fire rated doors.

Ok....confession........that is why I posted both references....so in the question...NOW which one would apply as the obvious one that is a bit OFF if you combined the BOTH references.

[wsiegel]

1 hour fire rated door

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Originally Posted by wsiegel

1 hour fire rated door

Yep. That's the one. . .

[bandag]

The 1 hr. fire rated was off, 20 minute min. on both, no self closing required in IRC 309.1

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Did any think of the fact that a 1 hour rated door needs a frame that is rated for 45 minutes and I doubt that a wood frame would meet that. So I guess we are back to a 20 minute rating at best. As far as I know, there is no rating on wood frames. Correct me if I am wrong.!

Marcel

[Larry D. Kage]

Check here, Marcel:

http://www.maiman.com/Products/Jambs.asp

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by bandag

The 1 hr. fire rated was off, 20 minute min. on both, no self closing required in IRC 309.1

it is in the UBC.......the question gives a few from BOTH references...to show only (1) is obvious

1997 UBC -

A self-closing, tight fitting solid-wood door 1

3/8" thick or a self-closing, tight-fitting door having a fire-protection rating of not less than 20 minutes, will be permitted in lieu of a one-hour fire door assemble. Doors shall be provided with gasket so installed as toprovide a seal where the door meets the stop on both sides and across the top.Fire dampers are not required in air ducts provided ducts within garage are

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by lkage

Check here, Marcel:

http://www.maiman.com/Products/Jambs.asp

Thanks Larry;

I didn't realize they had wood frames fire rated.

Marcel

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Thanks Larry;

I didn't realize they had wood frames fire rated.

Marcel

You're welcome...I'm pleased I could return some of your fine assistance.

[Bruce M. Graham]

not to drift but does anyone know what the rating for a pull down stair unit is?

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Bruce,

I am sure I will be flamed for it...but I will give you what I know in MY mind to be true..

1.) If the space over the garage is not seperated from the rest of the house it will require a 1 hr rating. You can get ceiling pull downs in a 1 hr fire rating as that would need it IF the ceiling above is open into the other part of the dwelling.

2.) If you have a fire rated seperation between the normal dwelling part and the garage space then I would be suspect most will install a normal pull down door....however on the ones we install we cover them with 5/8" drywall.

Others may have more information for you......