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Old 1/22/09, 10:23 AM
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Do you have comments about these window regarding safety glass?
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Old 1/22/09, 10:26 AM
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Do you have comments about these window regarding safety glass?
The bottom sashes should be tempered.



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Old 1/22/09, 10:28 AM
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The bottom sashes should be tempered.
Why do you say that?



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Old 1/22/09, 10:35 AM
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Tempered/Safety glass not required (but perhaps recommended), assuming those are real individual panes (lights) and not a large one >9 sf with fake muntins.

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Old 1/22/09, 10:36 AM
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regardless, if enhanced safety is a concern to you and client, note it and move on, they can pay to have it changed

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Why do you say that?
If that is one pane of glass, imagine a child falling into it. If not tempered, big shards of glass could cut and possible kill a small child. Safety is my first concern, not whether it is required or not.



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Old 1/22/09, 10:39 AM
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regardless, if enhanced safety is a concern to you and client, note it and move on, they can pay to have it changed

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I concur.

This installation would be in my report as a safety issue.
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Old 1/22/09, 11:02 AM
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regardless, if enhanced safety is a concern to you and client, note it and move on,...
How I saw it. Thanks all.



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Not required, and not even recommended. I don't see this as a "safety" concern.



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Not required, and not even recommended. I don't see this as a "safety" concern.

Good Luck when the kids are playing and one decides to push the other towards that window.

I always recommend safety rails in these situations. If my client refuses to install them and someone falls through...look at my HI report.
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Old 1/22/09, 11:59 AM
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Good Luck when the kids are playing and one decides to push the other towards that window.
That would certainly be unfortunate, but not a call that I will be concerned about.

If houses were built to be "child-proof," there would never be another set of stairs and kitchens would be a thing of the past, there would be no bathtubs, toilets or sink stoppers, and windows would be made of unbreakable plexi-glass. Parents have the responsibility to safeguard their children.



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Does the porch pass by the window's? on the outside
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Not required, and not even recommended. I don't see this as a "safety" concern.
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Good Luck when the kids are playing and one decides to push the other towards that window.

I always recommend safety rails in these situations. If my client refuses to install them and someone falls through...look at my HI report.
David, since there is no written standard, what standard do you use when deciding when a window is unsafe? If that window lower sash were 1' off the floor, would there still be a hazard? What about 1.5 feet? 2 feet? 3feet? Where is the safety concern cutoff that you use?



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David, since there is no written standard, what standard do you use when deciding when a window is unsafe? If that window lower sash were 1' off the floor, would there still be a hazard? What about 1.5 feet? 2 feet? 3feet? Where is the safety concern cutoff that you use?

Any window installed under 36" gets my safety recommendation. And I don't use a tape measure.

I don't do standards.
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