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Old 10/21/06, 10:50 AM
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Default Under stair protection

Need some help with understair protection. Correct me if I am wrong but there should be fireblocking below this stairway (see pictures).The open space is the floor joist area for the second floor. Better yet, I was under the impression if you were able to access the bottom of the stairway the walls and ceiling should be sheetrocked with 1/2" rock?
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Old 10/21/06, 12:13 PM
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James, you are correct but I'm not sure which code specifies those requirements.
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Old 10/21/06, 1:33 PM
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R314.8 Under stair protection.
Enclosed accessible space under
stairs shall have walls, under stair surface and any soffits protected
on the enclosed side with
1/2-inch (12.7 mm) gypsum
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Old 10/21/06, 4:54 PM
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Erby, what Code is that from? The 2003 IRC section R314 deals with Foam Plastic Insulation not stairs.
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Default Re: Under stair protection

Never mind the drywall I don't like the way the stringer is attached to the floor joist. It appears as if the joist has been omitted.
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Old 10/21/06, 5:34 PM
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It is R311.2.2



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Yep, there it is...thanks, Greg. Not sure why I didn't see that earlier.

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Default Re: Under stair protection

The quote is from the current Kentucky Residential Code 2002 which is based on the IRC 2000.

We're kinda ahead of the times here in Kentucky.

Next year we're supposed to adopt the 2007 Kentucky Residential Code based on the 2003 IRC.

We're kinda ahead of the times here in Kentucky.
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It is the same wording just a different code reference.



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Default Re: Under stair protection

House is only two years old and built by a large builder. I like to know how they get away with so much. Thanks for everyones help.
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Default Re: Under stair protection

Quote:
Originally Posted by rwand1
Never mind the drywall I don't like the way the stringer is attached to the floor joist. It appears as if the joist has been omitted.

Just graphics Raymond, ha. ha.
Here is a better graphic.

http://www.shalla.net/

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Default Re: Under stair protection

Would there be any exceptions to this rule? For example, if the underside of the stairwell is accessible thru the garage. I cant find anything that this would be allowed.
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If it were accessible through the garage, the garage "firewall" separation requirements would also come into play.



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Default Re: Under stair protection

It was accessible thru the garage and the the door into the stairwell was not rated. I did note the door and defer this area for further evaluation. Thanks
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Default Re: Under stair protection

Why recommend drywalling over what appears to be improper framing and attachment of the stringer? Is the stair improperly attached? In my opinion drywalling is the secondary concern. Why recommend covering a framing issue with firewall under the guise of fire rating, you cannot omit one problem over that of another, or am I missing something?
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