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I ran into this panel during a recent inspection, but did not expect to find 2 hot conductors, one gray neutral and one bare ground. There was no apparent connection between the neutral and ground. This is not a subpanel, although the main 200A disconnect was outside next to the meter. How common is this arrangement?
Frank P. Newman Emerald City Inspections, LLC Dublin, GA |
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Greg Fretwell is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
If the service disconnect is outside this is a sub panel.
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Well, I suspected that would be the answer, although I don't always see that arrangement in homes around here. So, here's another question - as you may be able to see from the picture, there are a LOT of neutrals - so many that each could not possibly be landed on an individual terminal. What would be the proper solution for the installer? I would think that a second terminal strip should have been installed.
Frank P. Newman Emerald City Inspections, LLC Dublin, GA |
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If there are more neutrals than neutral lugs I would be looking closer at the number of breakers installed vs what the panel max is.
You can't mix grounds up with neutrals on the busses in a sub either. There is a ground bus system and a neutral bus system, not connected. Some panels do have expansion kits for the neutral bus and ground bus expansions are available for virtually any panel. |
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That is essentially what I told the homeowner (who was present for the inspection). However, I found it interesting that the electrician who did the work carefully terminated the neutrals and ground conductors on their correct bus locations, but bunched the neutrals - I assume out of ignorance because there were a few screws left unused. Given that this is a 40 circuit panel with relatively few 2 pole circuits, the need for an auxiliary neutral bus would seem to be quite a frequent occurrence.
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