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I have a 15amp breaker with a copper solid conductor and an aluminum stranded conductor double tapped. The breaker is rated for AU/AL, however it does not appear to be rated for a double tap connection. There are no vacant breaker positions. Is there a replacement breaker to accommodate this configuration, both solid and stranded? If not, I assume there is a breaker with the proper double tap for two solid conductors and if this is the case, is there an acceptable splice to pigtail a solid copper onto an aluminum stranded?
Richard Ross Accurate Home Inspections of America, LLC Cape Coral, FL 33914 239-271-8499 Office 239-271-8499 Mobile 407-358-5376 FAX
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
You could use either of these. I would prefer the ones with the set screw:
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Those purple wire nuts sure are expensive.
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Jim Port is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
That may not even be stranded AL.
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Richard under no circumstances can you "Double Tap" a breaker. Your issue is not how to put the 2 dissimilar wires together as that is a violation. You need to only report the issues you found and not try to come up with a recommendation for correction. However to correct that issue they either need to find a "Cheater" or tandem type breaker rated for that panel or set a sub panel next to that panel to allow for more physical breaker spaces. Either way they need a Licensed and capable electrical contractor to asses and correct the issue.
Jim Maryland Home Inspection Services Inc. www.MarylandHomeInspectionServices.com State of Maryland License# 31141 Virginia License#3380 000468 National Association Of Certified Home Inspectors ID: NACHI10101807 International Association of Certified Indoor Air Consultants (IAC2). Certification # IAC2-02-0919 Maryland Home Inspectors In Gaithersburg, Rockville, Germantown, Bethesda, Potomac, Also All of Northern Virginia and Washington, D.C. |
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Double tapping is ok if the breaker is rated for double tap. And so far from my research, stranded wire maybe used on a breaker. Therefore It appears you could have a double tap on a double tapped rated breaker with one solid and one stranded.
Let me reword my question to eliminate the issue of discussing this with a client and ask if you ran across the above situation, (a double tap on a double tapped rated breaker with one solid and one stranded) would you call it as a defect? The Realtor had asked me how much it would cost to repair and I told him if the second circuit wasn't needed, it could cost very little and that there might be some other options which would also be inexpensive, but only a licensed electrician can tell you for sure and the worse case would be adding a sub panel for an additional breaker. Richard Ross Accurate Home Inspections of America, LLC Cape Coral, FL 33914 239-271-8499 Office 239-271-8499 Mobile 407-358-5376 FAX
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Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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How about this fix. Leave the al wire on this breaker and pigtail the copper wire onto another copper.
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For example:
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