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I do inspections on newer condos from time to time and I keep finding 15 amp receptacles on 20 amp circuits. Is this typically allowed as far as electrical codes go? Should it be corrected? I had one person tell me that it was o.k. because the shape of the plug for a 20 amp device will not fit in a 15 amp receptacle. But what if multiple devices are plugged into the outlet and collectively draw more then 15 amps? Seems like that could cause a problem.
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As long as 12 gauge wire is being used you're fine.
This is not code, but commentary from the NEC Handbook. "A single receptacle installed on an individual branch circuit must have an ampere rating not less than that of the branch circuit. For example, a single receptacle on a 20- ampere individual branch circuit must be rated at 20 amperes; however, two or more 15-ampere receptacles or duplex receptacles are permitted on a 20-ampere generalpurpose branch circuit. This requirement does not apply to specific types of cord-andplug- connected arc welders." 15 amp duplex receptacles are rated at 20 amps pass through in the UL listings. And each 1/2 of the duplex is rated at 15 amps. So they can handle a 15 and 5 or 10 and 10 amp loads for example. He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father |
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Please Note:
Jim Port is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
You might want to read NEC 210.21. and specifically 210.21(B)(1) and (B)(3).
If someone tries to use too many items and they all add up to too many amps the breaker will trip. No different than 20 amp devices on a 20 amp circuit. I have yet to see a 20 amp cord configuration in a residential setting. Window shaker A/C might be the only thing I could even think might have that plug. |
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.
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Beside, where would I plug my welder when creating fusion dishes and flambées Jim, Some microwave oven's have 20 Amps plugs. Cheers, Marcel Gratton, NACHI04011210, CMI On The Level Inspection Gatineau, Québec http://www.onthelevelinspection.com/ |
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
The requirement is that when 2 or more 15 amp receptacles are used they are permitted on a 20 amp circuit. By definition one 15 amp duplex receptacle is two receptacles so therefore it qualifies as the required two or more 15 amp receptacles on the 20 amp circuit. As mentioned 15 amp duplex devices are rated for 20 amps of feed through current.
A single receptacle alone on a circuit must have an ampacity of not less than the circuit OCPD. So a 50 amp single receptacle would be permitted on a40 amp circuit. This is typically seen in a single family dwelling where the range circuit is wired for 40 amps but a 50 amp receptacle is used. |
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You cannot plug a 20 amp appliance (t-plug) into a 15 amp receptacle therefore is safe but plugging a 50 amp appliance into a 40 amp circuit to me doesn't appear safe.
I reported a 50 amp receptacle protected by a 40 amp breakers /8 gauge wiring in a garage as being over fused just last week. Marcel Gratton, NACHI04011210, CMI On The Level Inspection Gatineau, Québec http://www.onthelevelinspection.com/ |
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Marcel,
40 amp protection for 8 gauge wire is OK. He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father |
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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Thanks for the explanation, it is much appreciated.
Regards, Marcel Gratton, NACHI04011210, CMI On The Level Inspection Gatineau, Québec http://www.onthelevelinspection.com/ |
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