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I often see 3 prong plugs wrongly installed. but yet have to do a proper written report as a certified residential building inspector.
I need clarification. Sorry but the photo examples did not come up right. The photo is correct in this image. I see the opposite 50 percent of the time. [ATTACH]Attachment 40059[/ATTACH] montrealbuildinginspectionservice.com montreal-home-inspection-services.com home-inspections-montreal.com homeinspectionsservicesmontreal.com ROBERT YOUNG'S MONTREAL HOME INSPECTION SERVICE INC. Certified Inspecteur Professionnel Certifié en Bâtiment membre de InterNACHI ACHI , Chapters - OntarioAchi et du M.I.C.Q (CPI) - (CHI) OFFICE (514) 489-1887 MOBILE (514) 441-3732 TOLL FREE 1- 855-819-1816 Last edited by ryoung7; 10/5/11 at 10:37 PM.. |
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Not sure about Canada but here if you're saying that the ground on the top (up) is incorrectly installed then you're mistaken. There is no NEC wording that dictates the orientation of the ground prong on a receptacle. Is this what you want to write up or is it something else?
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I know the right way is to have the ground up as to avoid contact from any ( conducting ) object falling down the wall plate and would be moved and somewhat unable to touch both bottom connections simultaneously. If not installed correctly it might case a short or worse injury and death. montrealbuildinginspectionservice.com montreal-home-inspection-services.com home-inspections-montreal.com homeinspectionsservicesmontreal.com ROBERT YOUNG'S MONTREAL HOME INSPECTION SERVICE INC. Certified Inspecteur Professionnel Certifié en Bâtiment membre de InterNACHI ACHI , Chapters - OntarioAchi et du M.I.C.Q (CPI) - (CHI) OFFICE (514) 489-1887 MOBILE (514) 441-3732 TOLL FREE 1- 855-819-1816 |
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The theory that the ground prong will stop shorts, is good, providing that you are using a three prong plug. For two prong plugs, it doesn't really matter. |
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Robert
I think it is a preference, In commercial you often find the ground on top and residential on the bottom Wayne Wilson East TN Home Inspections LLC Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Clinton, Farragut, Lenoir City, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville and all the surrounding areas. 865-256-1490 http://site.myhomeinspection.net |
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Thank you Mr. Van De Ven.
I have to look because its my understanding that homes of a certain age must be fitted with 3 prong. montrealbuildinginspectionservice.com montreal-home-inspection-services.com home-inspections-montreal.com homeinspectionsservicesmontreal.com ROBERT YOUNG'S MONTREAL HOME INSPECTION SERVICE INC. Certified Inspecteur Professionnel Certifié en Bâtiment membre de InterNACHI ACHI , Chapters - OntarioAchi et du M.I.C.Q (CPI) - (CHI) OFFICE (514) 489-1887 MOBILE (514) 441-3732 TOLL FREE 1- 855-819-1816 |
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If it was sideways, as on many cabinet back-splashes, would that be wrong also???
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Like to here and have read sensible ones SIR. montrealbuildinginspectionservice.com montreal-home-inspection-services.com home-inspections-montreal.com homeinspectionsservicesmontreal.com ROBERT YOUNG'S MONTREAL HOME INSPECTION SERVICE INC. Certified Inspecteur Professionnel Certifié en Bâtiment membre de InterNACHI ACHI , Chapters - OntarioAchi et du M.I.C.Q (CPI) - (CHI) OFFICE (514) 489-1887 MOBILE (514) 441-3732 TOLL FREE 1- 855-819-1816 |
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Also, the OP is in Canada. Canadas codes vary from the NEC in several areas. As for grounded receptacles, I'd have to look that up Robert. 1975 NEC section 210-7, was the first year that all 15 and 20 amp receptacles in residential occupancies, were required to be the grounding type. |
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Thank you Mr.Van De VEN.
That is what I am asking for. I have a code book and more questions to ask the RBQ before I set out on my new carrier. Ontario code and going out this week to ask the government how up to date it is. Mr.R Coole was kind to give it to me. He is a class act. Thanks all. montrealbuildinginspectionservice.com montreal-home-inspection-services.com home-inspections-montreal.com homeinspectionsservicesmontreal.com ROBERT YOUNG'S MONTREAL HOME INSPECTION SERVICE INC. Certified Inspecteur Professionnel Certifié en Bâtiment membre de InterNACHI ACHI , Chapters - OntarioAchi et du M.I.C.Q (CPI) - (CHI) OFFICE (514) 489-1887 MOBILE (514) 441-3732 TOLL FREE 1- 855-819-1816 |
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Robert,
Time was that the ground being on the top was indicated on the receptacle itself, with the word "top" at the end that the manufacturer recommended be unstalled skywards. In time, the word was removed from the pressing. As to Joe Funderbunk's question, although tounge-in-cheek...it is a valid one. No need to have such a large chip on your shoulder. |
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In new construction, the one receptacle in a room where the grounding pin is on top, is the receptacle controlled by a wall-switch.
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I see that a lot here.
Robert Newland Tyrone, GA 30290 NACHI05101290 http://www.CertifiedHI.com http://www.HomeInspectorTyroneGa.com Home Inspection Reports Powered by: HomeGauge eServices |
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If the receptacle was posidioned sideways then the neutral should be up. In Gatineau, most receptacles are positioned with the ground up.
Marcel Gratton, NACHI04011210, CMI On The Level Inspection Gatineau, Québec http://www.onthelevelinspection.com/ |
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Depending on the date of the new building project, they were installed one way or the other. You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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