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This breaker panel was installed in a home I inspected last week.
Notice the 120v 100 amp main. Any comments? Also some circuits are AL. Thanks. The Inspection Consultant Inc. www.gtahomeinspector.com info@theinspectionconsultant.com tel: 416-843-7080 Last edited by mbenerowski; 7/9/10 at 11:21 PM.. Reason: wrong pics |
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AL needs paste and to be connected to AL approved devises etc,so if it is in the branch circuits I defer to Electrician myself.
Notice your pic shows white at ground and 2 different sized conductors double tapped. What is connected to that knuckle off the feeder?(sorry can't tell.)(looks like they ran it to a sidecar for a A/C unit) Am I right? Need better labeling. Do not see much Romex so hope that is not extension cord. Also observe two of the double breakers are in the off position.Do you know why? Ran two conductors through one BX connector at the panel.(Is that a bare black conductor and extension cord ?) OK on second look I swear it looks as if they cut the conductor off the closed 15 amp double breaker. Stopping there because looking at wiring pics makes my eyes blurry. www.chicagopropertyinspection.com www.elliotthomeinspection.com www.chicagolandhomeinspection.com www.homeandcondoinspector.com www.homeandcondoinspection.com http://www.homeinspectorpro.com/ (Report Software) Bob Elliott http://www.chicagolandhomeinspector.com/ Last edited by belliott; 7/10/10 at 12:16 AM.. |
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Be a lot easier to see and accurately describe something if the photos were oriented. Do you not have photo software that can flip the photos. I really hate tilting my head sideways to look at photos, it may not go back straight one day.
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They mount them sideways in Canada Doug.
You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Not sure about the Canadian electrical code but there are some issues under the NEC. I see other 2 pole breakers so I don't know what you mean by 120 volt, 100 amp main. Back-fed mains require a clip or screw to keep them from pulling out. There are multiple conductors under the ground lug in photo #4.
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There is also a double tapped 15 A breaker on the bottom row and the lug near the right side is not likely rated for more than 1 conductor.
And as Robert said, It looks like a 120/240 V panel with no hold down for the 100 main. You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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Just took another quick look and see the breakers were tripped when the cover was pulled off.
Hope you remembered to reset them. |
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The home has 2 stoves one AC unit and a dryer. My concern is that no other subpanels were observed in the home or carport. Not sure what this knuckel is feeding, and if this connection is safe. The knuckel is not feeding to AC unit. Everything was operating in the home and the double pole 20amp was in the off position from the start. My concern is with the knuckel. Can you do this connection? and with no subpanel attched?
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Allowed if done the right way.
Breaker is on in picture before cover removal by the way. |
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Please Note:
Jim Port is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
That "knuckel" as some call it, looks like a split bolt connection to extend a service conductor that was cut too short. If any of the reds are also in that splice I can't tell.
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just an observation, there are two red wires coming off the black wire at the split bolt.
Not determining where this stuff goes, you may have missed a significant issue. I see someone using two wires of lower capacity to feed a single circuit somewhere. The two wires are trying to produce the sum of the required amperage capacity by double tapping. This is a circuit without over current protection as well! "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different results." Albert Einstein Clarksville - Nashville Home Inspector Lic#40 http://www.midtninspections.com ITC Level III Thermographer Cert#1958 Building Science Thermographer Cert#33784 http://www.thermalimagingscan.com HVAC Certification EPA Cert#2046620 Link to my Website at: http://www.midtninspections.com/link-submission |
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Let's start with some information:
1-Is the 100 amp CB the service disconnect? 2-Are the red conductors connected to anything? 3-Is the rigid conduit a service raceway? |
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1-Yes
2- Yes - Split bolt connection 3- Yes - and I can't trace the wires out the top mast head or at any visible location on the raceway. The Inspection Consultant Inc. www.gtahomeinspector.com info@theinspectionconsultant.com tel: 416-843-7080 |
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Please Note:
Jim Port is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
The conduit should go into the meter base and then from the meter base to the weatherhead. Are you saying you cannot see any of this conduit?
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P.s. the AC unit does not have a disconect switch on the exterior. I called out an electrician but just wanted some extra info. Hence this post. The Inspection Consultant Inc. www.gtahomeinspector.com info@theinspectionconsultant.com tel: 416-843-7080 |
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