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Old 10/19/10, 7:05 PM
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What about a bath fan within the shower enclosure just above the surround? Maybe it's just me but I don't like the install.
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Old 10/19/10, 8:31 PM
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What about a bath fan within the shower enclosure just above the surround? Maybe it's just me but I don't like the install.

Besides looking ridiculous, it is exposed to a wet location and subject to water saturation.


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Old 10/19/10, 9:08 PM
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It is also a good chance that in the manufacturers instructions, if placed in such a location would have to be protected by a Class A GFCI Device.


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Old 10/19/10, 9:16 PM
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If that's a wet location, (definition in Artilce 100 of the NEC) then the fan would need to be listed as such. My guess is that it isn't. As Paul mentioned most fans in shower/tub area are required by their manufacturer to have GFCI protection. This is not a NEC requirement but a listing requirement that it be installed per the manufacturer's instructions.
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Old 10/19/10, 9:34 PM
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If that's a wet location, (definition in Artilce 100 of the NEC) then the fan would need to be listed as such. My guess is that it isn't. As Paul mentioned most fans in shower/tub area are required by their manufacturer to have GFCI protection. This is not a NEC requirement but a listing requirement that it be installed per the manufacturer's instructions.
Kinda a NEC requirement....it invokes 110.3(B) which is NECish...


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Kinda a NEC requirement....it invokes 110.3(B) which is NECish...

True, in a round-about way.

Just wanted to point out that you won't find GFCI requirements for bath fans over tubs in Article 210 of the NEC. There could be some manufacturer that does not require GFCI protection for these fans.
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True, in a round-about way.

Just wanted to point out that you won't find GFCI requirements for bath fans over tubs in Article 210 of the NEC. There could be some manufacturer that does not require GFCI protection for these fans.
lol....then I will pull out his fan guts and now we have the receptacle in the shower area....lol....always skinnin the KITTY


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lol....then I will pull out his fan guts and now we have the receptacle in the shower area....lol....always skinnin the KITTY
No worse than having its switch within reach...


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No worse than having its switch within reach...
You canadians....lol....thats not a violation down in these parts...


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No worse than having its switch within reach...
Switches are permitted within reach by the NEC. In fact it only needs to be beyond the vertical plane of the tub's edge.
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You canadians....lol....thats not a violation down in these parts...
Lol, I know...

But we Canadians are simply more safety oriented!


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Lol, I know...

But we Canadians are simply more safety oriented!
Or you could say we know how to use a switch without getting hurt .

Can't be much of an issue since the code has remained silent for so long.
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Switches are permitted within reach by the NEC. In fact it only needs to be beyond the vertical plane of the tub's edge.
Obviously you have not met the "Crayon Man" who will correct you shortly.



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