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View Poll Results: Are Gas Piping Within Dwellings Get Bonded?
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Old 3/4/06, 12:33 PM
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Probably because I cant SPELL for crap James....yes it is Romex which is really just a brand name....thanks for pointing out I failed spelling in school.....Also I am only about 30 miles from West Virginia if that tells you anything...

I probably should just call it what it is...Non-Metallic Sheathed Cable....as it is safer..thehee

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Default Re: Bonding Piping 101....Good To Know !

I knew there was an explanation. Yeah, the Romex name is what 99% of non elecricians know NMC by. In fact, in my reports if I refer to it as non-metallic sheathed cable or as NMC I usually put (Romex) after the first reference just in case they don't know.
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Maybe it is I am southern...lol.....Maybe it sounds like ROMAX when it comes out of us southern folks mouth....lol....



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Romex is the registered trademark of the Rome wire and cable company (now Southwire). The real name is type NM-b.
NMC is another product, I doubt most of you have ever seen. It is damp location NM with a plastic inner wrapper where the kraft paper is now. When I look it up, the major cable companies refer you to type UF. I am guessing nobody makes it for the US market. Maybe that is different in the Great White North.
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Yeppers...and they even name NMS now....

NM- The overall coating SHALL BE flame retardant and moisture resistant.

NMC- The overall coating SHALL BE flame retardant, moisture resistant, fungus resistant and corrosion resistant.

NMS - The overall coatin SHALL BE flame retardant and moisture resistant. The sheath SHALL BE applied so as to seperate the power connectors from the communications and signaling conductors. The signaling conductors SHALL BE permitted to be shielded. An optional outer jacket SHALL BE permitted.

Now the NMS I can safely say I have never used that I am aware of...



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Right you are Greg. I guess I got used to saying NMC as an abbreviation for non-metallic sheathed cable as a whole.
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Right you are Greg. I guess I got used to saying NMC as an abbreviation for non-metallic sheathed cable as a whole.
We call it Rope in the west......
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Old 3/5/06, 10:36 AM
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You all say.....Howdy Their Partner......Git Y'r soldrin Ironz and Maker uz a Rope....< sound of Dale spitting in a spitoon >



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Default Re: Bonding Piping 101....Good To Know !

Just using the term "sheathed cable" to describe type NM wire works for me and clients too ...

P.S. Perhaps the question could be worded ... "Should Gas Piping Within Dwellings Get Bonded?" (couldn't resist ... lol).

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lol....Robert.....Notice my second post after the original...lol.....I realized once I made the thing it was not something I could change...lol..lessoned learned...lol



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Default Re: Bonding Piping 101....Good To Know !

Paul,
regarding your initial post....thanks for the gooood info. The point you make about the appliance providing the ground (or not)for the pipe (in some circumstances) is good to be aware of. Thanks
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Thanks Ed,

Thats what I am here for......Feel free to hollar at me anytime.



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Wow...only 69% got this one.....



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Bump.....Good Info



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Bonding is good.

G2411.1 (310.1) ICC IRC to see the full text. The gas lines are bonded if the egc of the circuit supplying the equipment is used.--My words.
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