InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Electrical Inspections

Notices

Electrical Inspections Contains discussions about electrical systems. This includes receptacles, panels, wiring, etc.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 3/6/07, 5:33 PM
wsiegel wsiegel is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hialeah, Fl
Posts: 2,542
Please Note: wsiegel is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Bus bars

Came across this is a home today. The left bus bar looks fine. The right bar appears to be tarnished. Any thoughts.
Attached Thumbnails
bus-bars-2154.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 3/6/07, 6:51 PM
jking2 jking2 is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Troy, MI
Posts: 183
Default Re: Bus bars

The right one looks like a normal copper bus. The left one looks like it could be a nickel plated copper bus, but Iv'e never seen both in one panel.

Jim King
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 3/6/07, 6:56 PM
Marc D. Shunk's Avatar
Marc D. Shunk Marc D. Shunk is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Central PA
Posts: 1,980
Please Note: Marc D. Shunk is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Bus bars

It could be as simple as the left buss had more oil film from manufacturing left on it, protecting it from the dampness more. I do note the bit of rust forming on the keyhole slot in the panel's backpan, which is what causes me to think it might be a bit damp inside the panel. Just a guess. Hard to say really.

As an electrician, if I was faced with a panel who's busses had a great color disparity like that, I might unclip all the breakers off that right hand buss just to make sure no bad breaker clip was heating up. Because of the fact that I would do this as an electrician as a matter of prudence, if I was a HI, I'd at document it as an item to be reviewed by another.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 3/6/07, 7:27 PM
Doug Edwards,  CMI's Avatar
Doug Edwards, CMI Doug Edwards,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Florida panhandle
Posts: 4,759
Default Re: Bus bars

Is that GFI brkr double-tapped? One white, one black..(not counting the pigtail)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 3/6/07, 8:40 PM
wward wward is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 81
Please Note: wward is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Bus bars

Doug, you have the white from the circuit going to the breaker and the white from the breaker "pig tail" going to the bus.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 3/6/07, 9:52 PM
wsiegel wsiegel is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hialeah, Fl
Posts: 2,542
Please Note: wsiegel is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Bus bars

Doug

Looks like it, but it is not.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 3/6/07, 9:54 PM
wsiegel wsiegel is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hialeah, Fl
Posts: 2,542
Please Note: wsiegel is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Bus bars

Mark,

Interesting observation on the keyhole. I missed that. This box was in the garage, so moisuter really should not be an issue here.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 3/6/07, 9:58 PM
Roy D. Cooke, Sr's Avatar
Roy D. Cooke, Sr Roy D. Cooke, Sr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton, ON
Posts: 13,922
Default Re: Bus bars

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk
It could be as simple as the left buss had more oil film from manufacturing left on it, protecting it from the dampness more. I do note the bit of rust forming on the keyhole slot in the panel's backpan, which is what causes me to think it might be a bit damp inside the panel. Just a guess. Hard to say really.

As an electrician, if I was faced with a panel who's busses had a great color disparity like that, I might unclip all the breakers off that right hand buss just to make sure no bad breaker clip was heating up. Because of the fact that I would do this as an electrician as a matter of prudence, if I was a HI, I'd at document it as an item to be reviewed by another.
I agree with Marc no big deal.
One buss could be two seconds longer in the silver plating vat .
They do not want to use to much silver.
Roy Cooke



If I can answer any questions please send me email Roycooke@hotmail.com

On an inspection and need immediate help call my cell 613-827-2011
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 3/6/07, 10:51 PM
wsiegel wsiegel is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hialeah, Fl
Posts: 2,542
Please Note: wsiegel is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Bus bars

Thanks guys - I always enjoy the answers and discussion here - and I learn a thing or two or three.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Commercial Inspection - Panic Bars jbowman Inspection Question of the Day 10 2/8/12 12:27 PM
Holiday cookie recipes - Enjoy! jonofrey Miscellaneous Discussion for Inspectors 11 11/7/07 9:42 AM
power bars mkyriacou Electrical Inspections 5 8/31/06 2:39 AM
Grounding between bus bars in a Cutler-Hammer main panel kshepard Electrical Inspections 3 5/19/06 10:03 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:09 AM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts