Is this cloth aluminum wire? Safe?

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by kwood

Not inside a wall but exposed going through the floor or wall. This has been changed here and not recommended by InterNachi. I am not saying any need to be changed unless you see the damage and report it.
Here is a picture of what I mean.

Obviously wrong and should be called out. But that is modern cable, not cloth covered range wire or SE cable as we have been discussing.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Canadians please note this would not be allowed in Canada .
Stoves in Canada require 4 wires two hot a neutral and a ground .
,,, Roy

[KEVIN WOOD]

I am just pointing out what is not acceptable here whether it is cloth or new. I do have pictures of cloth doing the same and opted to put the new one to show what an electrician has done here. As Roy has pointed out it is not acceptable here.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by kwood

Can anyone tell me what panel has this kind of Jumper? I do agree that if it is indeed a jumper it is fine but I have never seen this here.

Several. Here's a couple Siemens load centers.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by kwood

I am just pointing out what is not acceptable here whether it is cloth or new. I do have pictures of cloth doing the same and opted to put the new one to show what an electrician has done here. As Roy has pointed out it is not acceptable here.

Please note if it is cloth 4 wire and in Good condition it is OK .
Do not get your self trouble buy saying is is not .... Roy

[KEVIN WOOD]

Good point Roy!
And thanks christopher for the actual pictures.

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Canadians please note this would not be allowed in Canada .
Stoves in Canada require 4 wires two hot a neutral and a ground .
,,, Roy

Canada requires you to bring an older home up to today's code?

[Jim Port]

Roy, were 3 wire stoves ever allowed in Canada?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Jim Port

Roy, were 3 wire stoves ever allowed in Canada?

Not that I know of . Most of our Stoves have a 120 volt plug on a timer .... Roy

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Canada requires you to bring an older home up to today's code?

Be interested in Knowing where you got that Information . I do not think that is Code .... Roy

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Canada requires you to bring an older home up to today's code?

Roy, the above was a question not a statement, based on your post here that implied 3 wire conductors are outlawed.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Roy, the above was a question not a statement, based on your post here that implied 3 wire conductors are outlawed.

Thanks Joe
They where never allowed for Ranges In Canada That I know of .
WE have always Required a neutral ......... Roy

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

In the about 1945~ they Used Cloth covered three wire Cable two hots and a bare Neutral to feed a service as Pipe was not available .
... even when Pipe became availably they still used a bare neutral for some years .... Roy