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Old 4/10/08, 1:46 AM
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I inspected a house with an unfinished garage and there were some branch wiring (romex) running along the top plate (8 to 9 feet high)of the rafters. A few of the branch wires were run down the wall to an exterior mounted receptacle box. Does all the exposed wire need conduit or just the wire with in reach.
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Old 4/10/08, 4:03 AM
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I don't know what the code is in Fl., but it wouldn't matter to me anyway. I would recommend for safety reasons that the wire coming down the wall be protected. As long as the wire above is out of the way and fastened correctly it would probably be fine.

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Old 4/10/08, 7:49 AM
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Conduit. Protects it from rodent damage.
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I inspected a house with an unfinished garage and there were some branch wiring (romex) running along the top plate (8 to 9 feet high)of the rafters. A few of the branch wires were run down the wall to an exterior mounted receptacle box. Does all the exposed wire need conduit or just the wire with in reach.
If Romex can be mechanically damaged, I recommend conduit protection. Most exterior Romex needs a conduit pipe for protection.

An unfinished garage in Massachusetts doesn't require conduit protection, so long as it's properly secured.
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Conduit. Protects it from rodent damage.
So in attics, crawlspaces and wall cavities rodents are not a problem????
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An unfinished garage in Massachusetts doesn't require conduit protection, so long as it's properly secured.
Yup, same here.
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Most exterior Romex needs a conduit pipe for protection.
Not trying to sound smart but feel the need to point out that Nonmetallic Cable (Romex) is not allowed to be installed on the exterior at all. It can not be installed exposed or in a conduit, it cain't be installed outside at all.
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Not trying to sound smart but feel the need to point out that Nonmetallic Cable (Romex) is not allowed to be installed on the exterior at all. It can not be installed exposed or in a conduit, it cain't be installed outside at all.
Often I get called out to "put the exposed Romex in conduit". Sometimes the realtor and seller think I can just waltz in and magically slip some conduit onto the Romex in twenty minutes or so. Many are upset when I tell them the only fix is to tear it all out and do it right.

Plus, it would probably take longer to do it wrong.
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No conduit here as long as it is properly secured and is wood framing. Rodents have nothing to do with it here.
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It all comes down to whether it is "subject to physical damage" and that is always in the opinion of the AHJ. Most Florida AHJs want protection if it is below 6'6 or so but that is not written anywhere. There are NO local amendments in Florida, only local opinions.
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I read this as running down the inside of the garage into the back of an exterior receptacle.
Am I wrong?
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Sounds hocky to me. Your description is too vague.

Is the NM being run through bored holes?
Is the NM running along any 'surfaces'?
Is the NM exposed to any possible 'realistic' physical damage?

Photos please.

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That's the way it sounds to me Petey.
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A few of the branch wires were run down the wall to an exterior mounted receptacle box.

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I read this as running down the inside of the garage into the back of an exterior receptacle.
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Am I wrong?

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That's the way it sounds to me Petey.


After reading it again I may be the one that don’t know how to read!
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Not trying to sound smart but feel the need to point out that Nonmetallic Cable (Romex) is not allowed to be installed on the exterior at all. It can not be installed exposed or in a conduit, it cain't be installed outside at all.
Romex is allowed on the exterior, depending upon location and whether or not it's encased in conduit if sunlight becomes an issue.

In other words, Romex can be used under a deck as long it's properly secured. No sunlight.
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