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Old 5/18/10, 5:06 PM
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Are these GFCI protected receptacles considered inside the tub enclosure?
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Old 5/18/10, 5:17 PM
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No but make sure they are GFCI protected.



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I agree with Mike, not in the enclosure.



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These are helpful:
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Maybe this will help.

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Q: Does the NEC allow light fixtures, receptacles and switches within the 8-feet and 3-feet dimensions of a bathtub as mentioned in 410.4(D)?
A: The 3 feet of horizontal space around a bathtub and the 8 feet of vertical clearance measured from the rim of the bathtub apply to only those items listed in 410.4(D). They are cord connected small luminaires, hanging luminaires, track lighting, pendants and ceiling paddle fans. Flush- or surface-mounted luminaires may be located closer than 8 feet above the rim of the tub. Switches cannot be installed in wet locations in bathtub spaces, but there is no restriction on the distance that a switch may be located from a bathtub. This information is in 404.4.
Receptacles cannot be installed in a bathtub or shower space; however, they can be installed in the 3 feet of horizontal space that limits certain types of luminaires and paddle fans, but they should not be located in a damp or wet area.

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Peter,

Question.... where was the exhaust fan located?

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Old 5/19/10, 11:03 PM
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in the toilet closet
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I thought that might be the case by looking at the pictures. The reason I ask is to see how many inspectors would call that out. You now have a room that has a shower and a jetted tub with no exhaust fan for the moisture. Technically, by code, you don't need one if that window does open. But, who the heck is going to have that window open during the wintertime?

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I thought that might be the case by looking at the pictures. The reason I ask is to see how many inspectors would call that out. You now have a room that has a shower and a jetted tub with no exhaust fan for the moisture. Technically, by code, you don't need one if that window does open. But, who the heck is going to have that window open during the wintertime?

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Jeff ,How did you tell the exhaust was located in the water closet from the pics?
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Dang Strait they are! 3 feet easy... Ask yourself this? Would you let your kids bathe in there?
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Dang Strait they are! 3 feet easy...
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Jeff ,How did you tell the exhaust was located in the water closet from the pics?
Usually, if they have a separate 'room' for the toilet, that's the only place where they install a fan. Many builders and homeowners don't realize that the fan is geared more towards evacuating moisture than just smells. You can see the toilet in the mirror on the first pic.

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Here's one that was in the shower stall.
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Dang Strait they are! 3 feet easy... Ask yourself this? Would you let your kids bathe in there?
Please review the graphic posted in post #4 which shows receptacles and switches installed in a code compliant manner. Why would these receptacles be any different?
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Here's one that was in the shower stall.
Is that an issue?

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