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Old 3/28/07, 5:05 PM
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Default Copper Tie in Electrical Panel

Hi - I'm not an electrician - Found this small copper tie in an electrical panel the other day - is this acceptable? - never seen it before
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Old 3/28/07, 5:22 PM
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IMHO:

No, it's poor workmanship, and terminal screws most likely not supposed to be used as anchoring points.

What I would do it comment about it, recommend it's removal at the next time an electrician services the system/panel. Was there any other stuff?

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Old 3/28/07, 6:29 PM
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Default Re: Copper Tie in Electrical Panel

How about a picture of the entire panel?



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The wire sheathing should be removed so that it does not enter the panel more than 1/4". (Spelled it correctly this time JP )
Where'd that dimension come from?
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Dyslexia?

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Default Re: Copper Tie in Electrical Panel

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The wire sheathing should be removed so that it does not enter the panel more than 1/4". (Spelled it correctly this time JP )
This is actually totally incorrect. It should read "no less than 1/4" ". I think this is what Marc is getting at.

You can leave all of it on if you want, but we typically do not.
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That copper twisty look goofy but I can not see how it is doing any harm.
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Whoops, a misinterpation of 312.5 (c) on my part. Thanks for the clarification.



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Thanks for the repplies everyone - Here's the pics of the panel as asked by a memeber.
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New - still learning to spell!
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Nice Federal Pioneer panel. You're in Canada?
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It is amazing that they are nearly identical to our FPE, yet are not plagued with the FPacificE problems.
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Yep, from BC, Canada - no, not partcularly plagued as far as I know.
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Default Re: Copper Tie in Electrical Panel

It also looks like you potentially will have lots of overloaded neutrals on the multi-wire circuits. It appears they've got the black and red of the same multi-wire circuit hooked to the same twin breaker. Those twin breakers stab into one leg.
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It also looks like you potentially will have lots of overloaded neutrals on the multi-wire circuits. It appears they've got the black and red of the same multi-wire circuit hooked to the same twin breaker. Those twin breakers stab into one leg.
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Can you explain? Forgive me in advance, just not following your post.



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