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Old 8/24/06, 11:33 PM
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Default Dishwasher on a switch?

Is a dishwasher required to be on a switch (new construction)? Did a new home today and the dishwasher was not on a switch. Most homes are, yet I cannot find a reference in the IRC about it.

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Old 8/24/06, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Dishwasher on a switch?

Many AHJ's required it back in the early 90's I think after a run of units caught fire due to a poor design or chaffed wire.

It was code I think in 2001 for york county but they told me that they did not enforce it then.

I am seeing it on almost all new homes now though.
Even though most units have a child override no one uses it so a switch is needed to keep kids from overcleaning the dishes.

I don't write it up since all units I see have an override feature available and if a problem comes up with a model the CPSC will handle it.
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Old 8/25/06, 12:49 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen a dishwasher on a switched receptacle.



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Old 8/25/06, 12:57 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen a dishwasher on a switched receptacle.
Nope...never have.

Must be a SC thing.......
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Old 8/25/06, 1:30 AM
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I have never seen it either...Maybe its plugged into the disposal recepticle?



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Definitely must be a SC thing.
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Default Re: Dishwasher on a switch?

Fastened in place appliances are required to have a service disconnecting means. That can be a switch or a cord and plug arrangment. It's disign is to protect the person servicing the equipment, the same as the service disconnect on the A/C unit per NEC.
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Old 8/25/06, 7:02 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen a dishwasher on a switched receptacle.
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Old 8/25/06, 7:09 AM
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The reason for the switch is what Steve said.
A switched receptacle would be redundant since the only reason for the switch is a means of disconnect, not for controlling the applaince.
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Default Re: Dishwasher on a switch?

In some areas the disconnect may also be a circuit breaker in the service panel provided a breaker lock is installed on the breaker.

I have seen them on a switch here, but that was simply because it was plugged into the switched receptacle meant for the disposal.
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Old 8/25/06, 7:37 AM
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The reason for the switch is what Steve said.
A switched receptacle would be redundant since the only reason for the switch is a means of disconnect, not for controlling the applaince.
We simply move aside all the chemicals in the kitchen sink cabinet and unplug the dishwasher.



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Old 8/25/06, 10:04 AM
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Fastened in place appliances are required to have a service disconnecting means. That can be a switch or a cord and plug arrangment. It's disign is to protect the person servicing the equipment, the same as the service disconnect on the A/C unit per NEC.
There must be more to it than that? The way you have it stated would mean that a switch would be required for a built in cooktop, built in microwave, a range hood, trash compactor, etc. I can agree with that when it comes to a furnace, A/C unit, sink disposal unit, electric hot water tank, etc. Although, I don't know how you would be able to distinguish what devices would require a switch from that would not without listing each specific type of unit and not forgetting any or being able to accommodate new appliances.

I have never seen a switch for a dishwasher here either, other than the circuit breaker.

As for needing the power turned off to service a dishwasher, every appliance repairperson I have ever seen working on a dishwasher (and I have seen a lot) wanted the power on to inspect all the circuits in the switches & controllers. Once they have located the problem they turn off the breaker if necessary for the repair.



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Old 8/25/06, 11:23 AM
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The way you have it stated would mean that a switch would be required for a built in cooktop, built in microwave, a range hood, trash compactor, etc. I can agree with that when it comes to a furnace, A/C unit, sink disposal unit, electric hot water tank, etc.
In my area we would simply unplug all of those except for the A/C unit, which has a disconnect close by.



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Old 8/25/06, 11:30 AM
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Fastened in place appliances are required to have a service disconnecting means. That can be a switch or a cord and plug arrangment. It's disign is to protect the person servicing the equipment, the same as the service disconnect on the A/C unit per NEC.
Agreed. But that's not how I read the initial question.

Can you clarify your question Joe? Where do you normally see the switch?



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There must be more to it than that? The way you have it stated would mean that a switch would be required for a built in cooktop, built in microwave, a range There must be more to it than that? The way you have it stated would mean that a switch would be required for a built in cooktop, built in microwave, a range hood, trash compactor, etc. hood, trash compactor, etc.
It is. All of those need a means of disconnect. that could be the cord and plug, a switch or a "lockable" breaker.
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