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Old 6/23/09, 12:46 PM
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I found a 20 amp breaker with a single 12ga. wire about 4 inches long connected to two 14ga. wires with wire nuts branching out to their individual circuits. Any feedback? Thanks



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Old 6/23/09, 1:10 PM
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I found a 20 amp breaker with a single 12ga. wire about 4 inches long connected to two 14ga. wires with wire nuts branching out to their individual circuits. Any feedback? Thanks

that should be a 15 amp breaker Will....imo



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Old 6/23/09, 1:14 PM
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Default Re: double tapped with wire nuts

That would not be considered a "double tap," in fact, if the breaker was sized appropriately (which it is not), it's perfectly acceptable.



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That would not be considered a "double tap," in fact, if the breaker was sized appropriately (which it is not), it's perfectly acceptable.
It would be considered a "pig-tail".
And like Jeff sadi, it's fine (provided the breaker is right szie)



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Default Re: double tapped with wire nuts

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I found a 20 amp breaker with a single 12ga. wire about 4 inches long connected to two 14ga. wires with wire nuts branching out to their individual circuits. Any feedback? Thanks
Agreed it is not a double tap....However, lets not over look the fact it is (2) 14 awgs technically on a 20A breaker with no additional details. so if you are asking if it is a double tap...no...if you are asking if the method of installation is correct in your example....NO.......as others have said recommend to them to change the 20A breaker to a 15A breaker.

So the real issue here is not the pigtail....it is what the pigtail connects to



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Old 6/24/09, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: double tapped with wire nuts

This is a method some people use to get around the fact that the breaker allows only one conductor. The concept i sperfectly legal. However, the comments about the breaker size are, of course, correct.



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