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Old 3/3/06, 12:04 PM
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Would you note this as a missing drip loop?

Also thanks to Jae for the response to just have an electrician evaluate and to not list all the defects. Saves me about 10-15 minutes today.

This house had more subs than subway!!!

Thanks

I just love when the client brings a toddler that requires me to be a baby sitter.

Now junior get out of that sump pit now!!

Quit messing with my radon monitor.

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Old 3/3/06, 12:08 PM
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no drip loop and appears to be running down hill toward the mast head

nice panel, unreal!
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Old 3/3/06, 12:47 PM
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What the....Shirley, you jest!!



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Old 3/3/06, 1:09 PM
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Quote:
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Would you note this as a missing drip loop?
Yes ... looks like the anchor for the service drop came out of the brick (just below the wires).

I agree ... nice panels ...



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Default Re: Drip loop

Most certainly note the lack of a drip loop....

lol...I am sure you can handle the write up on these panels...thehehe....nasty...



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In addition. The electric company service drop, service point, and service entrance conductors are too close to the window. They must be at least three feet from either side, and the bottom of the window if it is a window that can be opened. When located above, at the top of the window, the SEC's are OK.The point of attachment is also missing.The electric utility company should be notified.
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Hey Joe,
was your avatar photo taken at the convention? Cause you look like
you have a major sunburn!
or was it opening a bad panel

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See what happens when you get Old! Repeat post removed.

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http://www.nachi.org/forum/image.php...7&type=profile

I was in the sun!

I changed the Avatar, which one makes me look like a "young" man?

I am an "OLD MAN" now!! he he he he lolololol

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Default Re: Drip loop

Good point about the 3' clearance joe, I think it would be hard pressed for the POCO to update that however in the sale issue and to be honest with you I don't know when the 3' came into effect...as long as I can remember......good to note for the liability of the HI but in practicle terms I don't see that being changed by POCO because of a HI report.

Alot will hinge ( no pun intended ) on if that window actually opens or not....but as you also might have guessed....I am sure it does open.



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The change for the most recent 2005 NEC is as follows:

230.9 Clearances on Buildings.
Service conductors and
final spans shall comply with 230.9(A), (B), and (C).


(A) Clearances.
Service conductors installed as open conductors
or multiconductor cable without an overall outer
jacket shall have a clearance of not less than 900 mm (3 ft)
from windows that are designed to be opened, doors, porches,
balconies, ladders, stairs, fire escapes, or similar locations.


Exception: Conductors run above the top level of a window
shall be permitted to be less than the 900-mm (3-ft)
requirement.
(B) Vertical Clearance.
The vertical clearance of final
spans above, or within 900 mm (3 ft) measured horizontally
of, platforms, projections, or surfaces from which they might
be reached shall be maintained in accordance with 230.24(B).


(C) Building Openings.
Overhead service conductors
shall not be installed beneath openings through which materials
may be moved, such as openings in farm and commercial
buildings, and shall not be installed where they
obstruct entrance to these building openings.

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Old 3/3/06, 7:34 PM
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Thats new construction Joe.....do you have any idea when the 3' clearance from windows came into effect...I remember it being that way as long as I can remember...any idea?



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Default Re: Drip loop

Quote:
Originally Posted by pabernathy
Thats new construction Joe.....do you have any idea when the 3' clearance from windows came into effect...I remember it being that way as long as I can remember...any idea?
It was before 75, the oldest book I have
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Old 3/6/06, 10:14 AM
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[quote=pabernathy]Good point about the 3' clearance joe, I think it would be hard pressed for the POCO to update that however in the sale issue quote]

Actually, as home inspectors we don't concern ourselves so.

We merely point out the fact. If the buyer/seller/anybody wants to take issue with PUCO (Public Utilities Commission of Ohio) that would be their's to do.

If we don't point it out, and something--anything--arises later, we haven't covered ourselves very well.

Somethings are good to know...



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