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Old 3/29/06, 11:48 AM
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My inspection protocols state that we operate and test using normal operating controls and equipment just like a normal homeowner would do on a normal day. Granted, there are no normal homeowners, but that's neither here nor there. . . .
Pretty close to the "Harry Homeowner Rule" I use where you are there just to visually inspect, operate and check readily accessible systems and components using normal operating controls, tools, and access the average homeowner would typically use.

http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/viewto...?p=12218#12218

Go down to the local mom and pop hardware store and see what tools and equipment they would typically sell to homeowners. I think using a basic 3-light receptacle tester, voltage ticker, and possibly even an inexpensive pocket meter/tester (which could be used to quickly check the dryer receptacle) would be reasonable for the "average" homeowner and an inspector.

When ya start flipping through the Professional Equipment catalog to order specialized trade equipment like the Ideal SureTest Circuit Analyzer and Fieldpiece Stick Meter you can put yourself on a slippery slope if you don't know what your doing and your not very careful with how you use them and report on any issues, as you are beyond the SOP for a home inspection.

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Old 3/29/06, 8:04 PM
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Personally...I don't care what it costs....My MUST haves are...

1.) SureTest Tester
2.) Voltage Sniffer
3.) Standard Digital Meter ( For Enhanced Electrical Inspections )
4.) Nice High Quality Flashlight
5.) Moisture Meter
6.) Digital Laser Pointed Temp. Gun
7.) Sony Digital Camera
8.) Palm IIIc Pilot ( Don't Laugh...Yes I still use a Palm IIIc )
9.) My HP LapTop w/ Inspection Software

Thats about as high tech as I get......But you never know I love buying gadgits....

As for going beyond SOP.........again lifting ceiling panels could go beyond SOP..if you lift one and not ALL.......what about that (1) you did not lift.



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Old 3/29/06, 8:36 PM
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As Joe Ferry would say, the reasonable typical inspector only uses a regular outlet tester....

Many meter leads will not reach into these outlets reliably and could lead you to believe that no power exists.
I might start stating in the report that 220V receptacles are not tested.
Are we taking advice on inspection methods from a lawyer?
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Old 3/29/06, 8:51 PM
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Just use a decent multi meter/ with extension probes if needed. Just don't let anyone catch you useing it.

I use a fluke 88 as it is what I have, thanks Lockheed.
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Old 3/29/06, 10:13 PM
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Personally...I don't care what it costs....My MUST haves are...

1.) SureTest Tester
2.) Voltage Sniffer
3.) Standard Digital Meter ( For Enhanced Electrical Inspections )
4.) Nice High Quality Flashlight
5.) Moisture Meter
6.) Digital Laser Pointed Temp. Gun
7.) Sony Digital Camera
8.) Palm IIIc Pilot ( Don't Laugh...Yes I still use a Palm IIIc )
9.) My HP LapTop w/ Inspection Software

Thats about as high tech as I get......But you never know I love buying gadgits....
My MUST have list is longer than yours, but I also offer PREMIUM and TECH inspections, where I get to use a lot of the gadgets. Of course, mine also includes margaritas.


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As for going beyond SOP.........again lifting ceiling panels could go beyond SOP..if you lift one and not ALL.......what about that (1) you did not lift.
Disclaim it; it's probably a Zinsco or a Federal Pacific.



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Default Re: Dryer Outlet Testing?

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Personally...I don't care what it costs....My MUST haves are...

1.) SureTest Tester
2.) Voltage Sniffer
3.) Standard Digital Meter ( For Enhanced Electrical Inspections )
4.) Nice High Quality Flashlight
5.) Moisture Meter
6.) Digital Laser Pointed Temp. Gun
7.) Sony Digital Camera
8.) Palm IIIc Pilot ( Don't Laugh...Yes I still use a Palm IIIc )
9.) My HP LapTop w/ Inspection Software

Thats about as high tech as I get......But you never know I love buying gadgits....

As for going beyond SOP.........again lifting ceiling panels could go beyond SOP..if you lift one and not ALL.......what about that (1) you did not lift.

Paul, what kind of flashlight do you like? I find the Surefires to be the best as they are pocket sized but as bright as a 4 cell.

Also, anyone have a boroscope? I really want one, I saw one for $300, was wondering how good it is.
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Or you can use a non-contact ticker and be done with it.... if both sides TICK....you are good enough......once you go into the panel you will also be able to ensure it is connected correctly...but about all you can do.
This is what i do. You really do have to let the client know what works and what doesn't before hand. Same with the 220 when you have the gas/electric oven option. This would only be when i can reach behind, as i don't need to risk damaging floor sliding things out. Can also check from below the floor sometimes if no fixed ceiling is present.

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Old 3/30/06, 12:09 AM
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Brian,

I have a Stinger FlashLight...Very Bright but only lasts about 1 hour per charge......



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