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Old 11/13/07, 6:36 PM
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Default Extension cords in a 'permanent' application

New Construction using an extension cord to plug in both garage door openers - how would you call it out?...
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Old 11/13/07, 6:40 PM
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Here's a little better picture...
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Old 11/13/07, 6:52 PM
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Temporary cords used as permanent wiring.
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Old 11/13/07, 6:56 PM
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Mike -

From the photo what I'm seeing is a case where the outlet has been placed next to the opener, but the opener's cord doesn't reach because the ceiling is too farther from the opener then the cord is long. Is that correct?

I routinely call out extension cords for ceiling fans and garage door openers where the extension cord runs all the way to a wall, then down the wall and into an outlet, as that is improper wiring and unsafe. But in this case, I don't see a problem, as from what I can see there is no way to supply power to the garage door opener which is better then what they chose, and it's not an unsafe or improper use of an extension cord since the cord isn't hanging in a way in which it is likely to be caught or damaged. I am making the assumption that the garage door opener is fairly high, out of reach to normal individuals of course.

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Old 11/13/07, 7:21 PM
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Extension cords are specifically listed for temporary use only. The tag, next to the plug, says it all - not allowed.



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Extension cords are specifically listed for temporary use only. The tag, next to the plug, says it all - not allowed.
Ok, so what would be the solution without an extension cord in this case?
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Old 11/13/07, 7:28 PM
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Agree with Jeff, but kinda agree with Brain too... I'm torn.

The height of the ceiling (slab plan built on a crawlspace with 'racquetball court' garage ceilings) allows only one way to wire it from the opener - Cut and install a new 'pig tail' for the opener...

And they have tried very hard to use a heavy duty (same gauge as the cord or better) extension cord as well as having tried to protect it from any physical damage...

Any other thoughts??

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Old 11/13/07, 7:42 PM
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Could probably drop a receptacle to it from above properly.



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Old 11/13/07, 7:45 PM
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Could probably drop a receptacle to it from above properly.
Larry,
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Old 11/13/07, 7:51 PM
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Ok, so what would be the solution without an extension cord in this case?
A longer cord-and-plug assembly would be a reasonable solution.



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Old 11/13/07, 7:56 PM
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A longer cord-and-plug assembly would be a reasonable solution.
And so would a properly installed and supported pendant.
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Old 11/13/07, 7:57 PM
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A longer cord-and-plug assembly would be a reasonable solution.
Both this and Larry's solutions do make a slight improvement over the existing installation. I'm still not totally convinced I'd make a big deal out of it though. From what I see here regularly, this is far better then most. I'd probably tell the client it's not an issue, then write it up.
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Old 11/13/07, 7:58 PM
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Yep. A cord-pendant would work as well. . .



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Old 11/13/07, 8:00 PM
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I'll offer both solutions as potentail 'fixes' to the 'problem'...

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Larry,
Can you elaborate on this?
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