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Old 10/9/09, 10:31 PM
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I spent an hour on the telephone with someone involved in a class action lawsuit against Reliable Electric and the old Federal Pacific. The suit reveals information about previous lawsuits which will blow your minds. The information relayed to me is explosive in ways most can not imagine. The problem is far reaching, and involves more than anyone can imagine regarding FP.

I am digesting the seven pages of notes I took and am crafting an article. For those of you who had doubts (myself included) I can assure you, your doubts will be removed. For those of you who believed Stab Lock to be faulty, hold on to your hats...

Please tune in next week... Same BAT time, same BAT channel

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Old 10/9/09, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Federal Pacific - The definitive answer

Sounds good, please fix that typo in the first sentence so searches will work better.



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Old 10/9/09, 10:41 PM
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Holy arc flash Batman..

Can't wait... Thanks Joe!!
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Old 10/9/09, 11:16 PM
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At least give us a appetizer.
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Old 10/9/09, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: Federal Pacific - The definitive answer

I know they faked a bunch of tests to pass UL cerification. I got that from Doug Hansen.



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Old 10/10/09, 12:26 AM
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Hansen is partially correct, though they didnt fake anything.
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Old 10/10/09, 12:42 AM
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Oh...im on the edge of my seat...cmon some more



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Old 10/10/09, 3:45 AM
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The fact that you state this information was through someone involved in a class action law suit, infers that the information will be biased.
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Old 10/10/09, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Federal Pacific - The definitive answer

No.

The information is now part of the public record, though preciously had been in sealed files.

Let me put it to you this way... How can you effectively recall 300 million circuit breakers?

As Roy Scheider once muttered in a movie, "I think we're gonna need a bigger boat..."
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Old 10/10/09, 10:31 AM
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Let me put it to you this way... How can you effectively recall 300 million circuit breakers?"

By having insurance companies demand a inspection that identifies the problem. Then the insurance company sends a letter to the homeowner demanding that they upgrade or lose their coverage.



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Old 10/10/09, 10:46 AM
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Greg...

300 MILLION
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Old 10/10/09, 10:51 AM
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Sure why not. The state of Florida is mandating two types of inspections that every homeowner is going to be required to have in the near future. That is about 20 million inspections.

If you calculate that each panel has about 20 breakers in it then that is only 15 million inspections.



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Old 10/10/09, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Federal Pacific - The definitive answer

My question is why does some electricians state there is nothing wrong with a FP panel and then some state the house will burn down if you don't upgrade. I hate coming across a FP panel. I called out one and the electrician told the homeowner nothing was wrong with it. So now I'm hesitant. The home owner was not happy having to pay a electrician when according to the electrician nothing was wrong with it.



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Old 10/10/09, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Federal Pacific - The definitive answer

Bill, you have to include in your report the fact that opinions will vary and more important, include the fact that most electricians think flipping a breaker off and back on in some way performed a "test". The cost of doing a real test to every breaker will be close to just replacing the panel. All breakers that pass a real test could fail 10 minutes later so it is a wasted effort.



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Old 10/10/09, 10:56 AM
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Billy

You have to be careful with your wording. In Florida we don't have that problem since we can put it all on the back of the insurance company.



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